AnonymousOne Posted May 27, 2005 Posted May 27, 2005 Have you ever tried this?In traditional Karate there are two types of side kick (yoko geri). The thrust kick - KekomiThe snap kick - KeageThe former has power and the latter has speed.As an alternative method of getting the best of both worlds try this.Throw out your snap kick as you would in a normal way, but just before the kick reaches its pinnacle, suddenly thrust your hips into the kick just like you do with a normal side thrust kick.Now this becomes confusing for some Karate-Ka who have always practised those 2 kicks in the traditional way. It just takes a little more practise to develop the co-ordination to perform the kick.It’s a little tricky at first but in time you become much more co-ordinated and end up with a very fast and powerful kick. If your school doesn’t like this kind of hybrid method development (like mine), then simply try it at home and adopt it in sparring. I am sure you will love the results.http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_on_2_20_2003_10_43_47/CLIP_FIGHT_SIDE_KICK_LARGE.JPG8FFE2720-C64E-400D-8E159A9AC6F69ECB.jpgLarge.jpg 7th Dan ChidokaiA true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing
kenttiensankari Posted May 28, 2005 Posted May 28, 2005 That looks like a sokutogeri to me. It is a sidekick with a great power on it.
Jussi Häkkinen Posted May 28, 2005 Posted May 28, 2005 Kenttiensankari: Sokutogeri (in Renshinkan) is simply a side thrust kick (yokogeri kekomi). What is meant here is a combination between rising side kick/side snap kick (yokogeri keage) and a side thrust kick (yokogeri kekomi). I.e. actually just a natural application drawn from those two kicks. Jussi HäkkinenOkinawan Shorin-Ryu Seibukan Karate-Do (Kyan Chotoku lineage)TurkuFinland
cheeks Posted May 29, 2005 Posted May 29, 2005 that 'hybrid' style is the same that i do in Kung Fu.on a slight tangent, i hate yokogeri kekomi, i feel really uncomfortable kicking from the horse stance, it feels slow and awkward, and i cant get any power. i much prefer the sotogeri (side kick) as it is much faster, and i use the momentum to drive through the opponant If you have just read the above message and agree with it then you may worship me as the best thing since sliced bread. Of course if you don't agree then hey, i'm a crazed lunatic and you should ignore my insane ramblings.
pers Posted May 29, 2005 Posted May 29, 2005 Once your knee is up and have good supporting leg and balance you can change your kick to another as need be ,like front kick to side or roundhouse ,or a round house to reverse roundhouse . never give up !
AnonymousOne Posted May 29, 2005 Author Posted May 29, 2005 on a slight tangent, i hate yokogeri kekomi, i feel really uncomfortable kicking from the horse stance, it feels slow and awkward, and i cant get any power. it is much faster, and i use the momentum to drive through the opponantWhat are you going to do to correct this and when? 7th Dan ChidokaiA true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing
G95champ Posted May 30, 2005 Posted May 30, 2005 differance in the two kicks is the striking point.snap kick is the blade of the footthrust kick is the bottom of the foothow your leg gets to that kicking postion can change. side stance stepping in, chamber from a previous kick, piviot in place, front leg or rear leg.you have not invented anything new here you have just found a new way to deliver the side thrust kick. this is part of becoming a better martial artist. congrats on your enlightenment. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
cheeks Posted May 30, 2005 Posted May 30, 2005 on a slight tangent, i hate yokogeri kekomi, i feel really uncomfortable kicking from the horse stance, it feels slow and awkward, and i cant get any power. i much prefer the sotogeri (side kick) as it is much faster, and i use the momentum to drive through the opponantWhat are you going to do to correct this and when? to be honest i dont think i will bother, i think it is a daft technique, and i do not see the point of wasting my time training a technique that i will not use. If you have just read the above message and agree with it then you may worship me as the best thing since sliced bread. Of course if you don't agree then hey, i'm a crazed lunatic and you should ignore my insane ramblings.
pers Posted May 30, 2005 Posted May 30, 2005 on a slight tangent, i hate yokogeri kekomi, i feel really uncomfortable kicking from the horse stance, it feels slow and awkward, and i cant get any power. i much prefer the sotogeri (side kick) as it is much faster, and i use the momentum to drive through the opponantWhat are you going to do to correct this and when? to be honest i dont think i will bother, i think it is a daft technique, and i do not see the point of wasting my time training a technique that i will not use.Dear friend ,like you I found kekomi very difficult to do ! It was like hitting a brick wall ,I got stuck with this and could not make it work ,but then I constantly watching my sensie delivering powerful kekomis and I knew I can learn to do it better .It diden't come over night ,but with lots of repetitions and good instruction I now have a relatively decent kekomi that I am confident of ,it does not matter if the kick is not high ,this kick done properly can do a hell of a damage to the legs ,groin ,middle section and i have seen people knoked down with this kick .So don't get disappointed ,keep at it and it will happen ! Doing it from horse stance is the initial training method of improving this kick , however once the mechanics are achieved it can be delivered from front stance or fudo dachi ,or even shorter stances .once a karateka reach a certain competency he should be able to move from one stance to another naturally like second nature without conseous thought. never give up !
cheeks Posted May 31, 2005 Posted May 31, 2005 Dear friend ,like you I found kekomi very difficult to do ! It was like hitting a brick wall ,I got stuck with this and could not make it work ,but then I constantly watching my sensie delivering powerful kekomis and I knew I can learn to do it better .It diden't come over night ,but with lots of repetitions and good instruction I now have a relatively decent kekomi that I am confident of ,it does not matter if the kick is not high ,this kick done properly can do a hell of a damage to the legs ,groin ,middle section and i have seen people knoked down with this kick .So don't get disappointed ,keep at it and it will happen ! Doing it from horse stance is the initial training method of improving this kick , however once the mechanics are achieved it can be delivered from front stance or fudo dachi ,or even shorter stances .once a karateka reach a certain competency he should be able to move from one stance to another naturally like second nature without conseous thought.i am fully aware of the power generated in a side kick but i cant see the point of doing it in a horse stance, because of what i do in Kung Fu, i automatically use a short quick stance rather than the overly rigid horse stance.but thanks for your comments anyway and i will try to learn it, i will just never use it. If you have just read the above message and agree with it then you may worship me as the best thing since sliced bread. Of course if you don't agree then hey, i'm a crazed lunatic and you should ignore my insane ramblings.
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