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I dont care what kind of layoff he may have had....if hes a 4th degree and cant handle someone...anyone...with 3 months training...hes got no business wearing that...or any belt

~Master Jules......aka "The Sandman"


"I may be a trained killer......but Im really a nice guy"

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actually - good point :D after only a couple of months -even if the guy hadnt trained for a couple of years he still should have won......

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Thats not neccessarily true. Think about it this way. On the feet, he should hold a decisive advantage over me, but hes been doing point sparring his entire life.

Once we hit the ground, the advantage goes to me. You'd be surprised the difference between a newbie and a jiu jitsu fighter with 3 months experience.

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since tang so do has little to no ground fighting It's not that suprising if someone with BJJ experience was able to take it there.

It's a simple matter of who can make their opponet fight their fight..in this case ground vs standing.

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i agreee that he could have won..... but still he shouldnt have.

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Thats not neccessarily true. Think about it this way. On the feet, he should hold a decisive advantage over me, but hes been doing point sparring his entire life.

Once we hit the ground, the advantage goes to me. You'd be surprised the difference between a newbie and a jiu jitsu fighter with 3 months experience.

bingo.

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actually - good point :D after only a couple of months -even if the guy hadnt trained for a couple of years he still should have won......

After a couple of years not training, his whatever conditioning he may have had will be long gone. That makes his chances even worse. The length of time you've been training isn't everything, especially when it comes to fighting. I know of a guy who has been training off and on all of his life, and he lost a san shou match to a guy 7 years younger than him who had only been training for a year...

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I agree - 10 years would give you so much more experience than just the 1, specially if you're talking about top notch training in both cases...

Thnink if you narrowed the gap to like 1 year versus 3, it might be a little bit more even, would still give it to the guy with 3, but it wouldnt be so definite...

not necessarily. If your 10 years was spent either point sparring or not sparring at all, then you would actually be at a disadvantage.

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heck, did any of you watch the last UFC? shonie carter has been training for YEARS. experience wise, he definitely had his opponent outclassed - yet he still lost. shonie is 29-13-6. His opponent was only 7-1. 48 fights vs 8??

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yeah but we're talking in general.... not specifically..... im not really sure on this now. Had a think about it and it would really depend on how each of them trained.

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