louie_shotokan Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 hello everyone 1 my favarite combo is the old "jab and reverse punch".but when you jab you do a zenkutsu dachi then reverse dosent is seem silly to punch 2 times in the same stance? so i think i should jab in zenkutsu dachi then reverse with my heel up...you guys how do u jab and reverse punch? gyaku tsuki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Mike Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 jab in my bow stance and reverse with heel up. When a man's fortunate time comes, he meets a good friend;When a man has lost his luck, he meets a beautiful woman.-anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousOne Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 This is highly debateable. Have you ever seen Mike Tyson knock someone down with a straight punch (boxings reverse punch) with his heel up?I have. Its very powerful 7th Dan ChidokaiA true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 but when you jab you do a zenkutsu dachi then reverse dosent is seem silly to punch 2 times in the same stance?It depends if your talking about kihon or application. In kihon the heel stays down because its correct form, but in application you perform the techniques on a more free-flowing manner. This means you wont really be in an exact zenkutsu dachi but you will "fall" into a position similar to it for a small moment while performing the strike.you guys how do u jab and reverse punch?All my techniques are applied basically from a boxing stance. Feet shoulder width apart and when i just, if im moving forward i might "fall" into zenkutsu dachi and then keep moving forward with the gyaku tsuki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie_shotokan Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 cross, im not talking about kihon im talking about sparring when sparring i think it's more realistic in sparring to "jab in a zenkutsu dachi with heel down and reverse punch with heel up. gyaku tsuki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauzin Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Okinawan Kenpo has a very specific way of doing this. First you must understand that in Okinawan Kenpo our front stance is no where near as deep then what you see in Goju or Shotokan. When we jab we generally add a shuffle with our front leg and then we rotate our back leg and heal out to the side and bring it forward as we bring our hip around for the reverse punch. This causes us to move off line slightly. The idea is that a jab will invoke a response, moving our back leg out moves our head and body slightly off line at the last second. This is very effective in sparring as well as the street as it really sets you up in a nice position. Also you can get quite a bit of bang in that second punch. The only two things that stand between an effective art and one that isn't are a tradition to draw knowledge from and the mind to practice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho-ju Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I use heel down for the left/right combo. When I throw a hook the heel on my front foot moves slightly. After boxing and studying full contact karate, I believe the heel down is the best method for me. I'm not punching through a glove, but with a bare fist, this changes the punch a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrettmeyer Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Lifting the heel, for me anyway, is a function of hip rotation. More rotation, the heel comes up. Less/no rotation, the heel stays back. If I can get my opponent to not react (by tiring him out, having good timing, etc.) then follow through can be very damaging.If my opponent is on to my reverse, then I will expend energy without causing a lot of damage, and that's not a good combination. So, I'll pull my follow through, redirect, or do something else with the strike. Jarrett Meyer"The only source of knowledge is experience."-- Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uechi Kid Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 You should practice the way you would use you technique on the street. Heel up is a weaker stance than heel down. More Practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makiwaraman Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Heel down seems more solid try both ways and find which works best for you.regards makiwaraman We are necessarily imperfect and therefore always in a state of growth, We can always learn more and therefore perform better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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