kivikala Posted September 12, 2005 Posted September 12, 2005 makiwara... yes. love 'em. I may be a bit opinionated about this but no self-respecting school would be without one or two or three or...The use of the makiwara is controversial, studies done way back in the 60's show that the training "can be" detrimental in long term. But, personally using them steadily for some 40 years, I'd be the exception to any study. My hand are still quite flexible and not grotesque lumps of callus. I've even managed to break several makiwara so I believe my strikes are not too whimpy.I'd have to say makiwara training is up to the individual. Don't start too young and everything in moderation should work for just about anyone. Me? I am just nuts.
makiwaraman Posted September 15, 2005 Author Posted September 15, 2005 makiwara... yes. love 'em. I may be a bit opinionated about this but no self-respecting school would be without one or two or three or...The use of the makiwara is controversial, studies done way back in the 60's show that the training "can be" detrimental in long term. But, personally using them steadily for some 40 years, I'd be the exception to any study. My hand are still quite flexible and not grotesque lumps of callus. I've even managed to break several makiwara so I believe my strikes are not too whimpy.I'd have to say makiwara training is up to the individual. Don't start too young and everything in moderation should work for just about anyone. Me? I am just nuts. The reason that a lot of schools dont have makiwara any more is due to them not being full time dojo's and having to share the sports hall with other users who would not like four holes drilled in there nice wooden floor.But yes if its a full time dojo every self respecting one should have one or two.There are many that have trained correctly on the makiwara for many years without any of the rumoured arthritis etc, I have tried to find proof of these rumours and it does not exist in either case.Regards Maki We are necessarily imperfect and therefore always in a state of growth, We can always learn more and therefore perform better.
y2_sub Posted September 15, 2005 Posted September 15, 2005 We have one at our school , and I am planing to convice sensei to install two other makiwaras Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike
y2_sub Posted September 15, 2005 Posted September 15, 2005 We have three @ our school Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike
NidaninNJ Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 I use a makiwara when I can but prefer the heavy bag. It's not because the bag is softer or more like hitting a body. I like the bag because it moves around. If I had the money and space for it, I would make a room with all kinds of makiwaras and bags and other things to hit, some of them moving around to make targeting more of a challenge. I would also put in some sensors to tell you when you make strong contact. Now I'm getting off target - off the subject, I mean. lol.
Shrekka Posted December 29, 2005 Posted December 29, 2005 This is from my instructor when I asked his view on Makiwara training - Actually a makiwara is really a target.. the modern makiwara can be a punching bag, a kick shield, etc. The dea was to develop impact and the correct distance of engagement. In Okinawa, there were few resources available to build such things. The Chinese had their wooden man type devices for hitting and blocking. The Satsuma Samurai that invaded Okinawa in 1609 brought with them their own Martial Arts and they were famous for Jigen Ryu swordmanship. One of their training method was to develop impact by using a wooden sword (bokken) to strike trees. They were feared by other samurai for their ability to cut a man in two. One thing is definite, those that don't hit anything other than air ge a real shock when they begin impact training.
NidaninNJ Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 Actually a makiwara is really a target.. the modern makiwara can be a punching bag, a kick shield, etc. The dea was to develop impact and the correct distance of engagement. I don't really understand the point of this. First, you say the makiwara is just a target, then you say the (i)dea was to develop impact and correct distance.Which is it?If it's to develop distance, how is a makiwara gonna help? It doesn't move. The heavy bag doesn't move much. But at least the swinging does help develop distance a little. More than with the makiwara anyway.Maybe I'm missing something. But I don't understand the point you were trying to make, Shreeka.
Nidankid23 Posted January 3, 2006 Posted January 3, 2006 It is available for use in my dojo but is usualyl done in one's own time. "The fastest draw is when the sword never leaves the scabbard,The strongest way to block, is never to provoke a blow,And the cleanest cut is the one withheld.""Karate is a defensive art from beginning to end. " - Gichin Funakoshi
Shrekka Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 Actually a makiwara is really a target.. the modern makiwara can be a punching bag, a kick shield, etc. The dea was to develop impact and the correct distance of engagement. I don't really understand the point of this. First, you say the makiwara is just a target, then you say the (i)dea was to develop impact and correct distance.Which is it?If it's to develop distance, how is a makiwara gonna help? It doesn't move. The heavy bag doesn't move much. But at least the swinging does help develop distance a little. More than with the makiwara anyway.Maybe I'm missing something. But I don't understand the point you were trying to make, Shreeka.Ok, you are still thinking that a makiwara is a long piece of wood stuck in the ground. A makiwara (target) is a training partner, whether it be a person, punching bag, moving kick bag, focus pads etc. A moving target helps you to understand distance, control, speed and power. Does that clear it up? If not, please let me help you understand more. Shrekka
NidaninNJ Posted January 4, 2006 Posted January 4, 2006 Actually a makiwara is really a target.. the modern makiwara can be a punching bag, a kick shield, etc. The dea was to develop impact and the correct distance of engagement. I don't really understand the point of this. First, you say the makiwara is just a target, then you say the (i)dea was to develop impact and correct distance.Which is it?If it's to develop distance, how is a makiwara gonna help? It doesn't move. The heavy bag doesn't move much. But at least the swinging does help develop distance a little. More than with the makiwara anyway.Maybe I'm missing something. But I don't understand the point you were trying to make, Shreeka.Ok, you are still thinking that a makiwara is a long piece of wood stuck in the ground. A makiwara (target) is a training partner, whether it be a person, punching bag, moving kick bag, focus pads etc. A moving target helps you to understand distance, control, speed and power. Does that clear it up? If not, please let me help you understand more. ShrekkaI think I understand what you mean now. You are not using the real definition of makiwara.
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