Leg attacks

[UseoForce]

I'm not saying foot locks are good or bad. I'm saying if a submission is open, go for it!

[SubGrappler]

I agree, but if all you do is footlocks, then you'll never learn how to pass the guard and get to a dominant position.

I think thats the reason you're not allowed to do them until you're a brown belt.

[UseoForce]

But if you continually applied footlocks with success (I'm not saying you should) your training partners would learn how to defend against them, and thats what its all about: Learning. I do agree that footlocks should not be the only attack you ever use. They should be part of a well-rounded arsenal.

[TJS]

Foot locks can be a crutch for passing gaurd..but these days some people have some insane open gaurds that are nearly impossible to pass and having a dangerous foot lock arsenal can open up opportunities to pass.

[SubGrappler]

Footlocks becomes relatively easy to defend against in a short period of time once you start to become exposed to them.

They're too valuable to not have in your arsenal, although I will agree that the only footlock in mine is the toe hold.

I go for the guard pass- I think its far better and what you should always be trying to do. If you opponent defends so hard that he presents an opportunity for the foot, then by all means take it, but I dont think a footlock should be the first thing going through your head.

[goshinman]

Great analysis by all. Sambo really changed the way BJJ guys work from the guard because of the foot and leg attacks. You have got to know how to defend leg subs. Bjj teaches them but usually not until the higher belts.

That brings up a funny point. Isn't it weird how Judo, BJJ, and Sambo all have the counter to each others weakness? I guess in a way this makes sense seeing as though one of the main founders of Sambo (V. Oshchepkov) was a 2nd dan in judo under Kano and took the judo training methods back to russia and combined them with russian arts to help form sambo, and of course Carlos And Helio being students of Maeda took the judo methods and worked them into Bjj. Funny how things work out. Kano, we all owe you one.

[Sam]

I think if something works iwthin the rules, then why not use it....even if people dont like it.

[SubGrappler]

Im talking about your training methods. However you win a tournament doesnt really matter.

But if all you can do is footlocks, theres going to come a time when you fight someone who's got a decent defense against them. I for instance immediately go to butterfly guard when my legs are opened in no gi, so its difficult to isolate a foot for attack. In a situation like that, if you dont have a guard pass, you're going to be kinda screwed.

I also like BJJ for practical reasons. Footlocks have their place, but once again, people arent as quick to pounce on a foot in a fight, because you give up top position, and your opponent has two hands to pound you with.

Im not saying they're bad, but I am saying that you should not rely on them.

[Sam]

you shoudlnt rely on any one set of techniques..... or skill set...

[Adonis]

I don't use foot locks to well I am not good at setting them up and finishing them. I pulled them off in training a couple of times but mostly I worked to pass the guard. Lately my higher percetage moves have been triangle choke or straight arm bar from guard or mount. some times I pull off key locks and kimura's I never been to good with gi chokes.

any way as said before I don't like to give up a chance to pass guard to go for a leg lock that isn't high percetage move in my arsenal and get stuck in a worse postion.

Just my 0.2 cents. If I knew how to set them up more I would go for them.