Joecooke007 Posted March 3, 2002 Posted March 3, 2002 Well everybody here has covered what I was gonna say. Boards don't hit back. -Bruce Lee
Prodigy-Child Posted March 19, 2002 Posted March 19, 2002 well punching from your hips does generate alot of power.......that whole one shot one kill deal and stuff but i would rather used a bunch of punches that have a sufficient amount of power rather then just having one really hard punch You can boo me if you want, You know I'm right!-Chris Rock
Bon Posted March 19, 2002 Posted March 19, 2002 I don't know anything about karate.. but I do know that from doing kata with hands at the hips for my punches, when I got into a real fight I was able to punch hard and end it in one punch It takes sacrifice to be the best.There are always two choices, two paths to take. One is easy. And its only reward is that it's easy.
Angus Posted March 19, 2002 Posted March 19, 2002 I don't like doing it, but it's good for beginners cos it teaches the the 'ACTION, REACTION' principle... Your hand drives forward as your opposite side pulls back... It's a traditional karate and tkd thing for reverse punches. Boxers don't do it cos it's just not practical. Angus Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear.
spinninggumby Posted March 19, 2002 Posted March 19, 2002 Yeah a lot of the stuff like the horse stance training and punching (going through the whole range of motion from the hip) is great for beginners because it strengthens their whole body (or specific areas depending on the specific traditional technique/stance) and teaches effective bodily mechanics. I mean, if you fare well while fighting in a committed and not fairly mobile horse stance while throwing punches from the hip, imagine how quick and effective your sparring will be when you are in a much more practical sparring stance and you have a good understanding of how to channel power and speed 'Conviction is a luxury for those on the sidelines'William Parcher, 'A BEAUTIFUL MIND'
YODA Posted March 19, 2002 Posted March 19, 2002 I don't buy that SpinningGB - the idea of training one way & fighting another just doesn't make sense. When it hits the fan you will fight the way you train. YODA2nd Degree Black Belt : Doce Pares Eskrima https://www.docepares.co.ukQualified Instructor : JKD Concepts https://www.jkdc.co.ukQualified Fitness Instructor (Weights, CV, Circuit, Kinesiology)
spinninggumby Posted March 19, 2002 Posted March 19, 2002 Well I agree with you Yoda. While training for conflictual or threatening situations, you should train to react exactly as you would in real life, or vice versa (you will react exactly as you train). Maybe my words the first time around were all screwed up and wrong, I guess I was just saying that the horse stance and basic techniques, some of which may not have as much practical potential as other later techniques, are necessary at first to train the inexperienced mind as well as the inexperienced body when beginning on their martial arts journey. For example a low horse stance would put you in a very disadvantageous position (in most real life circumstances) but it is still an effective (perhaps not the best but still of somewhat merit and value) way of strengthening the legs and encouraging discipline. When training for a marathon obviously you will not be spending a lot of time walking, because you will cover ground by running in the actual contest so your body will excel at what it is exposed to or put through during training. However, everyone has to learn how to walk first before they learn how to run and perfect or refine the art of running (i.e. energy conservation, etc.). 'Conviction is a luxury for those on the sidelines'William Parcher, 'A BEAUTIFUL MIND'
steveking63 Posted March 28, 2002 Posted March 28, 2002 The point to think about is that nothing in traditional karate is wasted. Every move stance has a purpose. It may not always be obvious. But as your journey continues it may well become clearer. This gem was left with me early in my Karate training and has stayed with me. Some really good points already made guys. Thanks 2nd Dan Black Belt Karate 1st Dan BrithaiCardio Kickboxing Coach and Professional fitness trainer based in Cambridgeshire England
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