Karate sparring UN EFFECTIVE ON STREET

[tangsoodo]

In order for sparring to be effective on the street, it must be combined with power.

[MadMatt]

For sparring to be really effective for the street it needs to be done at all ranges (standing at range, close quarter, standing clinch, ground), under resistance and emotional pressure.

The problem for most karate systems (including my own) is that we spar under a set of rules that disallow a lot of techniques that if applied could be the difference in the street confrontation.

Practicing complex SD manouvres in the dojo with a compliant partner only produces false confidence, most of the time you will not have the time or ability to think and react quickly enough to make them work. Add emotional pressure under severe duress and the chances of them working are even greater.

The key for Karate instructors, in my opinion, is to separate tournament sparring from street SD training. Instructors need to put real pressure on their students to perform simple SD techniques under duress against resistant training partners.

For example, 3 onto 1 sparring with the 3 attackers yelling obsenities pushin and shoving. How would you react?

Of course safety is an issue but if all karate styles in general want to be

taken seriously as effective forms of self defence then instructors need to re-evalute the way they train their students. They really need to research what the top reality based self defence instructors are doing and incorporate it into their syllabus.

Just my thoughts though.

[Kinson]

Ok, this whole bull-killing with your bare hands business...doesn't taking life for the sake of boasting your power miss the point of Karate completely?

[Tiger Burford]

sparring is glorified game of tag, fighting is different there are no rules on the street I will bite scratch and gouge you that is fighting

[Traditional-Fist]

Ok, this whole bull-killing with your bare hands business...doesn't taking life for the sake of boasting your power miss the point of Karate completely?

But, if you look at it from the point of a view of a Bull, who is condemned for the slaughter house anyway (which is true in Mas. Oyamas case), it is a heroic way to go.

[MJC The Great]

Can't say I call that heroic exactly. Sorry but I have to agree with Kinson about the ethics of this. The bull should never be going to the slaughter house in the first place but that's not realistic of me. It is no man's right to take a life even if it isn't a human. Another point is that a bull is not a dangerous creature as was suggested in an earlier post, at least not if it is left to live it's life as it would do so naturally. Without interfearence from mankind and our constant quest to kill this beautiful planet. Sorry if that is considered a rant but it has to be said and I don't mind being outnumbered on this point.

[pers]

Back to the topic ,sparring is an aid to enable you to be effective in the street.

Sparring in our dojo was done at all ranges ,including grappling ,take downs and ground work .basically anything and any target .but obviously with respect and control for the training partner as they both help each others progress week in and week out .

to find out if your technique has enough venome ,rather than finding out on your partner ,it is done on bags and makiwara or pads !

with patner you work on strategy, ways of delivering your technique correctly ,evasion ,posture .

when we get near a tournement then our sparring would be geared towards tournement techniques and the speed of movements and delivery.

so to be effective in the street there are several factors to be observed and sparring is just one of them.

the most important one in my book is correct mental attitude . after this comes good technique .

in shotokan we go back to basics and I see it as a great aid to sharpenn your techniques.

[Traditional-Fist]

Back to the topic ,sparring is an aid to enable you to be effective in the street.

Sparring in our dojo was done at all ranges ,including grappling ,take downs and ground work .basically anything and any target .but obviously with respect and control for the training partner as they both help each others progress week in and week out .

to find out if your technique has enough venome ,rather than finding out on your partner ,it is done on bags and makiwara or pads !

with patner you work on strategy, ways of delivering your technique correctly ,evasion ,posture .

when we get near a tournement then our sparring would be geared towards tournement techniques and the speed of movements and delivery.

so to be effective in the street there are several factors to be observed and sparring is just one of them.

the most important one in my book is correct mental attitude . after this comes good technique .

in shotokan we go back to basics and I see it as a great aid to sharpenn your techniques.

Were your takedowns and ground work training taken directly from and using Shotokan kata and techniques?

[pers]

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Were your takedowns and ground work training taken directly from and using Shotokan kata and techniques?

Not necessarily ,what ever works from any other school ,based on the foundation of shotokan basics that we work on.

[Traditional-Fist]

If you don't mind me asking, does your school belong to any Shotokan federation or functions under any of the main Japanese Shotokan senseis?

I am asking because I find the description of your training quite unusual from what one generally hears about Shotokan training which has surprised me in a positive way.