Long Fist

[Goju_boi]

Nope. That is a common belief, but it's actually a fairly effective art form. Check out the article for more. It's a good read.

http://shaolinusa.com/Curricula.aspx

this is a website of a shaolin school i want to go to . look on the bottom were it says chang quan

[fallen_milkman]

Well apparently they only use Long Fist forms for their competition forms at that school. This is probably because they can be quite physically demanding, especially once you hit the higher levels. That doesn't diminish combat efficacy, unless you don't learn applications for the forms. But that could be said for any MA.

[Goju_boi]

Well apparently they only use Long Fist forms for their competition forms at that school. This is probably because they can be quite physically demanding, especially once you hit the higher levels. That doesn't diminish combat efficacy, unless you don't learn applications for the forms. But that could be said for any MA.

true,but these instructors are from the shaolin temple so shouldn't they teach all the applications it has?

[fallen_milkman]

Well, if you learn the applications, how can it be just for show?

[Spencer]

Chang quan is classed as Modern Wushu. The styles that were used to make up this style are traditional.

But Chang Quan is one of the definitive modern wushu styles.

http://In 1959 it was announced that a state controlled martial arts program had been created that no longer recognized styles or systems. Instead, all martial arts were divided into five basic categories, "Long Fist" (referring to all empty hand techniques), broadsword, straight sword, staff and spear. After some protests, a category referred to as "South Fist" was also introduced to represent the martial arts of Southern China. This state controlled martial arts program is the basis for what is today referred to as "contemporary Wushu".

[Goju_boi]

isn't this the thing that tried to make all chinese arts for show instead of combat?

[elbows_and_knees]

Well apparently they only use Long Fist forms for their competition forms at that school. This is probably because they can be quite physically demanding, especially once you hit the higher levels. That doesn't diminish combat efficacy, unless you don't learn applications for the forms. But that could be said for any MA.

true,but these instructors are from the shaolin temple so shouldn't they teach all the applications it has?

The shaolin temple today isn't the same as it was back then. The temple is now mainly known for it's performance wushu.

[elbows_and_knees]

isn't this the thing that tried to make all chinese arts for show instead of combat?

The PRC has a firm grasp on all MA in china. They basically tell you what is kung fu and what is not. They are big on modern wushu.

[MenteReligieuse]

Well apparently they only use Long Fist forms for their competition forms at that school. This is probably because they can be quite physically demanding, especially once you hit the higher levels. That doesn't diminish combat efficacy, unless you don't learn applications for the forms. But that could be said for any MA.

true,but these instructors are from the shaolin temple so shouldn't they teach all the applications it has?

Not sure if this applies for everything they teach, but for alot of the forms they willingly teach they wont teach the applications, for it is reserved for monks.

[fallen_milkman]

Well, then I would recommend learning Long Fist styled forms elsewhere. I know applications for the first two forms, and it's pretty good once you start understanding them.