evilgollum Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I have to agree with GOM. Even though it may be "traditional," it does indeed seem like a waste of time to test a 1st kyu on their kihon (basics) when, if they are testing for their black belt, their kihon should be quite competent already.
Brandon Fisher Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Ok here is what I require to Shodan:Self Defense:Nearly 200 different techniques or combinations of techniquesKata:3 Kihon Kata5 Heian3 NaihanchiBassai DaiBassai ShoEmpi2 Bo Kata1 Nunchaku KataBunkai for all the kataTameshiwari (Breaking) must include one cinder patio slab) Otherwise students choiceKumite or defense against a full out attackTerminologyPressure PointsOral explanation of the history of martial arts. Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do
parkerlineage Posted April 1, 2006 Posted April 1, 2006 Shodan Requirements:- 226 self defense techniques (We don't do them all at the test, though. That'd take forever.)- Short Forms 1-3, Long Forms 1-4- Several hand, foot, or both sets, none of which we did at my test- A 'thesis' of ten personally developed self defense techniques, with detailed explaination of each, and performed together in a kata as well- Gearless freestyle sparring- Ring of Fire (Students form a semi-circle, and rotate through with one individual in the center. Students in the circle are chosen at random by the master, and they step in and (are supposed to) do one attack (people harrassed me at my test because I was so young). The student in the center must execute one of the self defense techniques or a variation thereof)I hear these stories of ten hour black belt tests, and I wonder either how intense their tests are, or marvel at the shape they must be in...after two and a half hours of my own, most of the people were close to passing out. American Kenpo Karate- First Degree Black Belt"He who hesitates, meditates in a horizontal position."Ed Parker
evilgollum Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Is 500 nonstop pushups even realistic? I could do about 115 earlier this year, and I thought that was amazing.
Brandon Fisher Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 Is 500 nonstop pushups even realistic? I could do about 115 earlier this year, and I thought that was amazing.I know a guy that did 1000 in 90 minutes for a charity fund raiser. That guy is in unbelieveable shape though.This is him doing one of his well known demos. Not quite push ups though. Don't look to close if you have a weak stomachhttp://www.seijitsushindo.com/misc-pics/masterperry.jpg Brandon FisherSeijitsu Shin Do
longarm25 Posted April 11, 2006 Posted April 11, 2006 SHODAN - TIME LIMIT: Minimum 3 to 5 years at least 16 years oldSUMMARY OF TEST REQUIREMENTS:YAKUSOKU KUMITE: ALL (7)KATAS:· Fukyugata Ich, Ni, Sandan · All Pinan Katas · All Naihanci Katas · Ananku · Wankan KATA BUNKAI:(min.)· Fukyugata Katas · Pinan Shodan · Pinan Nidan KUMITE: The student will free style kumite with fellow black belts for three minute bouts.ATEMI ( BREAKING) Wood Breaks 1.Punching 2.Elbow Shoto WRITTEN TEST GIVEN BY BOARD MEMBERSORAL TEST: What does it mean to you to be a Black Belt. PhilRyu Kyu Christian Karate Federation"Do not be dependent on others for your improvement. Pay respect to God and Buddhabut do not reley on them." Musashi
Holland Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Minimum 3.5 years of trainingSince this is an isshinryu school...katas: Seisan, Seiuchin, Naihanchi Sho, Wansu, Chinto, Kusanku, Sanchin, Sunsu.Kobudo: Kyan no Sai, Kusanku Sai, Tokumine no Kun.I also train in and teach Okinawan Kobudo...Sho dan for that requires the performance and Bunkai of 12 weapons katas.
kurome Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Naihanchi Shodan-SandanPinan Shodan-GodanWansuAnankuSeisanNiseishiPassaiBunkai for all kata, a written test on lineage and terminology, an essay, a show of self defense, and free sparring. "You all come from different instructors, so as I look around the room I may see many different ways of preforming this kata, however, if you are turning left and I turn right, we have a problem." -Renshi Thomas Apsokardu (Godan, Okinawa Kenpo Karate Kobudo Koryu Kan)Matthew Sullivan
Sohan Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Our Shodan exam is actually quite short. Our Ikkyu test can be up to six hours or more in length, but Shodan is considerably shorter, perhaps only an hour or two. I am not sure why, but this is tradition in our school. We are not asked to test until Sensei has already determined we have performed to the level that we would be promoted to. This way there are no surprises on test day. Nobody has every failed a test because their performance in class is actually the test! Our belt exams are still fairly grueling, however, because we study two systems and have to know all material for both and perform it well.Shodan requirements are some 30+ kata, ippon kumite, lines with bo and sai, free sparring, long chamber, and centerline, and a oral test on history and philosophy. Tests are cumulative to Shodan, where that test is pared back substantially. Although I am glad that we don't have to endure what some BB's endure in their test, I feel we have already proven ourselves in our classes, which can last up to 3 hours long and are quite challenging.Respectfully,Sohan "If I cannot become one of extraordinary accomplishment, I will not walk the earth." Zen Master Nakahara Nantenbo"A man who has attained mastery of an art reveals it in his every action." Samuarai maxim"Knowing others is wisdom; knowing yourself is Enlightenment." Lao-Tzu
aruder Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 For Shodan: Tai Kyoku Kumi (a blend of the traditional Tai Kyoku ich, ni, and san) Wansu Anaku Nihanchi Sho Empi Sho San Chin Bassai Dai Tsue Sho (a basic bo form) Go Pei Sho Dan Enn Sho so thats 10 forms and (deep breath...) Three levels for each form perfected (performance, bunkai, and with attackers) 35 Wazas (similar to one steps): 10 Tae Tsues (speed) 15 Ippons (power) 10 Kihons (power and speed) with and without attackers 26 Judo Techniques perfected 5 Animal forms 24 Self Defenses (against wrist grabs, lapel grabs, knife thrust, etc) with variations 35 sparring combinations 4 minutues Form sparring and stance focus sparring Judo matches, opponent lighter, same weight, and heavier (Sensei usually says he's the same weight, no matter what size you are,) Sparring matches, same as above Development of personal kata Written exam Oral exam Black Belt Thesis (What does Shodan mean to me? or the like) Fitness Requirements In all, Shodan tests usually take about 6 hours and gallons of blood, sweat, tears, and vomit
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