Teaching respect

[pineapple]

I once trained under a teacher who was always disrespectful to his students and I noticed that his students were also disrespectful (arrogant and talk down to others)

I also trained under a teacher who showed respect to everyone and his students were also respectful to everyone else.

Both teachers told their classes to practice respect but only one was successful.

The bottom line is that the best way to teach respect is by example.

Anyone had similar experiences?

[1st KYU]

yup, my dojo. its an awsome place.

[Grenadier]

Not entirely surprising, as the old adage of "the fruit never falls far away from the tree" holds true in many cases. The instructor's personality, teaching methods, and philosophies tend to rub off on his academic sons and daughters (his instructors that work for him). Even though they won't become clones of their chief instructor, they'll pick up enough traits, whether they realize it or not, that they become similar enough.

Good instuctors produce mostly good instructors of their own, although a few bad apples from the tree can certainly be produced on occasion.

Bad instructors will produce mostly bad instructors of their own, although some of the instructors can be salvaged with better teaching on how to become an instructor. Occasionally, though, there will be a particularly promising academic son / daughter that he can't corrupt.

[yamesu]

Respect must be given, in order to be gained.

[CQC]

We have a cocky black belt like that at our dojo. Other, more advanced, sensei's have sparred with him in the past, going pretty hard. I think that kind of taught him that he definately wasn't all that.

He only shows up every few months now, because he knows no one likes his attitude - which is obvious when he's sparring with others - going nearly all out and actually hurting people of a lesser skill level.

[Grenadier]

CQC,

If that black belt is still out to nearly injure the others, shouldn't this be brought to the chief instructor's attention?

[Ridge_hand]

Meh, that is true, my Sensei always tells us to respect the other people and mostly we do a good job.

[karatekid1975]

pineapple, I went to one TKD place (reason for me coming back here) that the master instructor was arrogant. Some of the students, specially the younger ones, were just like him. There were a few that were respectful. But they were older (in their 40's). I trained with them (they were also instructors) more than I did with master instructor!

The dojang that I go to now is very strict about respect. Our master instructor isn't arrogant at all. He even hates being called "master." So, most of us respect fellow students and instructors alike. If there is an "ego" floating around in the group, it gets deflated really fast (if it gets out of hand that is).

[Rateh]

weve had some problems at the dojo with a red belt kid. He is arrogant and speaks down to the other students. Recently (i dont know the entire situation), the head instructor made him and an orange belt girl trade belts. Orange belt is just above beginner level, and red belt is just before brown, in our dojo. This happend at the end of last week, on saturday they were still wearing eachothers color, i dont know how long it is ment to last. Maybe, this will help him to learn to respect all the students, maybe not, its not the first thing thats been tried.

[scottnshelly]

I've never really had too big of a problem with disrespectful students round here. That's because most of the Instructors teach and show respect. When we travel to some tournaments in the larger cities though, we see a lot of disrespectful students.

Good observation pineapple.