y2_sub Posted May 11, 2005 Author Posted May 11, 2005 So its agreed that rules are the big difference between a street fight and a cage fight.The often most argued rules are biting and eye gouging, so lets address those first- do you think they would play a critical role in the determination of a winner of a fight?Remember Tayson vs Holyfield ???? Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike
y2_sub Posted May 11, 2005 Author Posted May 11, 2005 Vernix .. It's my first time to read anything like that about Oyama , However , they might be right after all , Oyama is just a human not a god . As for "Oyama didn't knew any thing about grappling " ??????????????????? any avarage striker knows a minimum ammount of grappling , moreover , even if he didn't knew any judo , he had a 9th dan in goju ryu , we all know that goju contain some throws and takedowns ...Indeed , Oyama is not a god , lots of legends has been tailed about him , but he is not an avarage human as well . Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike
Traditional-Fist Posted May 12, 2005 Posted May 12, 2005 Anyone can say anything they want specially when the person they are badmouthing is dead and cannot respond. Use your time on an art that is worthwhile and not on a dozen irrelevant "ways".
Bama Crimson Posted May 14, 2005 Posted May 14, 2005 I am near Chattanooga Tn. Any Kyokushin schools near me....I doubt it but I am curious. There are plenty of Karate schools, Shotokan, Isshin-Ryu, etc....What about Richmond, Va, my hometown? "If you believe in yourself and have dedication and pride, and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards." -Alabama Coaching Legend Paul "Bear" Bryant.
Osu No Seichin Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 From the book "Kyokushin Karate Self Defense Techniques" by Shihan Bobby Lowe. I quote " Of special mention and who was of great consequence and influence to Sosai Oyama was Kotaro Yoshida of Daito-Ryu-Aiki-Jitsu. It is from this martial discipline that a majority of Sosai Oyama's self defense movements and techniques were derived and developed from. It is Kotaro Yoshida who is specifically mentioned by Sosai in his book, "This is Karate" as ' " ...Unrivaled in the fields of Japanese aikido, sword fighting, judo and knife throwing...." Any one can say any thing in print, I agree. My point, if Sosai Oyama trained with a Sensei such as Kotaro how could he not know any thing about judo or throwing????? And on a side note, It was Kotaro Yoshida that sponsored Morihei Ueshida in his initial study of daito-ryu aikijutsu, which he later evolved into modern aikido....this is all documented in the "eimeiroku" registry of students at the Daito-Kan.And as another side note....Shihan Bobby Lowe (8th dan kyokushin) was Sosai Oyama's first uchei-dechi and a Black Belt in Kyokushin when Jon Bluming started as a white belt. You won't find a student Of Sosai Oyama's who has been around longer and stayed true to his master like Shihan Lowe....I could dispute all of Venrix's statements but there would be no point. It is one mans opinion and we are all allowed our opinions, I would hope..
Traditional-Fist Posted May 19, 2005 Posted May 19, 2005 From the book "Kyokushin Karate Self Defense Techniques" by Shihan Bobby Lowe. I quote " Of special mention and who was of great consequence and influence to Sosai Oyama was Kotaro Yoshida of Daito-Ryu-Aiki-Jitsu. It is from this martial discipline that a majority of Sosai Oyama's self defense movements and techniques were derived and developed from. It is Kotaro Yoshida who is specifically mentioned by Sosai in his book, "This is Karate" as ' " ...Unrivaled in the fields of Japanese aikido, sword fighting, judo and knife throwing...." Any one can say any thing in print, I agree. My point, if Sosai Oyama trained with a Sensei such as Kotaro how could he not know any thing about judo or throwing????? And on a side note, It was Kotaro Yoshida that sponsored Morihei Ueshida in his initial study of daito-ryu aikijutsu, which he later evolved into modern aikido....this is all documented in the "eimeiroku" registry of students at the Daito-Kan.And as another side note....Shihan Bobby Lowe (8th dan kyokushin) was Sosai Oyama's first uchei-dechi and a Black Belt in Kyokushin when Jon Bluming started as a white belt. You won't find a student Of Sosai Oyama's who has been around longer and stayed true to his master like Shihan Lowe....I could dispute all of Venrix's statements but there would be no point. It is one mans opinion and we are all allowed our opinions, I would hope..Good post. I am one of those who believes that Kyokushinkai karate as a fighting art, is a lot more profound than many people give it credit for. The general view seems to be that all you guys do is sparr and fight in Knock Down tournaments. I have in my possession This is Karate by Oyama and in this book you see an art that is very far removed from the one dimensional system that many believe Kyokushinkai to be.I do suspect that perhaps many Kyokushin schools do not teach this style the way Oyama had meant it to be taught, but this would hold true for other Karate styles and schools as well. I do believe that there should be many good schools around where the true art of Kyokushinkai is taught in all its richness and essence. Use your time on an art that is worthwhile and not on a dozen irrelevant "ways".
ivette_green Posted May 20, 2005 Posted May 20, 2005 Possible Reason 1: He didn't want Kyokushin to survive without him. I disagree. He never seemed a petty man and doing something like that would be an atypical act for someone acting and living in the Japanese culture. He would have been hiding a side of himself from a lot of people to leave the world in the hopes of destroying something he worked on his entire life to build. I also think that there are more than two solutions to any problem. "Don't tell me what I can't do."
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