So, how old is everyone here?

[Manabimasho1]

HOLY CRAP who were your masters!!!!!!!

And how old were they!!! Like 20 or something!!

My sensei is almost 60, and has trained under people such as Kanazawa.

When your actualy able to defend yourself in real situations and much older you will understand why everyone complains bout BB children and kids....its a huge false sense of pride that gets them badly hurt, killed, and has Martial Arts laughed at by the society of today.

What a pity that has been your experience with youth black belts!

I trained since I was 8, and had 4 years of perfect attendance. That's coming to class every session. I currently come to my dojo for 9 hou

rs of class (not counting extra practice; just class hours) a week. I never get into fights, and I avoid telling people of my martial arts experience, unless asked.

My dojo has had only 2 junior black belts (under 16) since it's start in 1981, myself being the only current one. Our other junior black belt had 3 years perfect attendance.

So your 15-16 now as you said in other posts you started when you were 8 and you do 9 hours a week with perfect addendance let me break out the calculator.... So you have 9 hours a week = 36 hours a month. which makes 460 hours a year and you started at 8 and got your black belt at 14 and your 16 about now or are going to be so that is 8 years of training at 3,660 hours of learning which is great for you and I am glad your dedicated.

So you are telling me that after teaching a child for 3,660 hours they have achieved rights to begginning Mastership, they have achieved the Nofear dump and that you think that Children should be given BB's. I teach the children at my class and as everyone who reads this knows if a child under the age of 12 is in class they are only partly paying attention, it's hard for them and it's not thier fault.

The comments you made about who your master was taught under means nothing to me due to his students disreguard for the safety of others. I can asure you our style and Grandmaster outweighs your claims but I won't brag, go to our website if all you care about is papers and reconizations by Emperors and Temples.

[Menjo]

you know, sometimes arogance should be put aside to let in things not normaly accepted....

[Manabimasho1]

My sensei is almost 60, and has trained under people such as Kanazawa.

Someone tell this Kid that Kanazawa is a City in Japan, and my Grandmaster's training and teaching experiences are as old as your Master.

The point is kids are getting hurt due to improper training on the streets and I see adults too doing this- I just want the nonsense and greed for money to stop influencing Masters/Instructors/Grandmasters to give out BB's to those that have yet to earn them.

I earned my BB through 9 hours of Drills, blood, sweat, tears, and pain I am not saying everyone should got through our Testing ways, I am saying that I see too many adults and kids run off and get hurt or killed due to thier belief that they have enough skill to end or stop a fight.

Try living in a bad area - peace talks are a sign of weakness and I have witnessed so many sucker punches from people who talk thier way out of it, or try to atleast.

[ShotokanKid]

You've never heard of Shihan Hirokazu Kanazawa?

http://www.fightingmaster.com/legends/kanazawa/

I'm Japanese, I know that Kanazawa is ALSO a city, on Honshu; my uncle, aunt, and cousin are going there this summer.

[Manabimasho1]

You've never heard of Shihan Hirokazu Kanazawa?

http://www.fightingmaster.com/legends/kanazawa/

I'm Japanese, I know that Kanazawa is ALSO a city, on Honshu; my uncle, aunt, and cousin are going there this summer.

Yes i know of Master HiroKazu Kanazawa, why didn't you just post that =p . Anyways I think you are being to mean and arrogant to hear my words because here and the other forums your quoting me and then misinterputting it.

I don't have a problem with children learning M.A. I don't have a Problem with Black Belts, I do have a problem with anyone who has lil knowledge or skill and believes they can take out the 300 pound thug on the streets who is weilding a colt 45. and has back up friends near by.

I have over 13 year martial arts experience and I practice daily how to strip a knife, how to take out multiple attackers, what to do in dangerous situations and I can say that even though I can take out a bigger person in seconds I will walk away and run from a crazed gunman who starts blasting shots for fun at me.

I guess im coming off to strong but I am saying that you may be skilled in sparring, in fighting an unarmed person, but this is not the movies, don't think you're going to happly walk down gang central and defend yourself against 15 people.

[ShotokanKid]

I don't have a problem with children learning M.A. I don't have a Problem with Black Belts, I do have a problem with anyone who has lil knowledge or skill and believes they can take out the 300 pound thug on the streets who is weilding a colt 45. and has back up friends near by.

don't think you're going to happly walk down gang central and defend yourself against 15 people.

I would never try any of those. What does that have to do with being a youth black belt?

[Manabimasho1]

I don't have a problem with children learning M.A. I don't have a Problem with Black Belts, I do have a problem with anyone who has lil knowledge or skill and believes they can take out the 300 pound thug on the streets who is weilding a colt 45. and has back up friends near by.

don't think you're going to happly walk down gang central and defend yourself against 15 people.

I would never try any of those. What does that have to do with being a youth black belt?

Ok then you're not on the same page as me. I am sorry and appologize for being upset at your before comments. I am not an adult who gets upset at the Dojos that give out Black Belts for the purpose of it being a Black Belt. But to a child /Teen/ some adults having a Black Belt gives them a huge sense of security they sometimes let it go to thier head and that is what I worry about.

I am glad you would never go after the crazed guy in the Club, I used to purposaly look for fights and go into Tough Man contests untill I had a Family. And I speak from experience of seeing my actions years ago and seeing others. A Black Belt is a sign of power.

I teach others how to stay alive and defend thierself but I also teach them when not to do something and I am passionate about keeping Martial Artists happy, proud, and peacefull. I just don't see it much these days. I have taken on journeys of peace and cerenity.

Edited July 31, 2005 by Manabimasho1

[MasterH]

I'm 21 with a little over a year in an official martial art. Most of my experience before that was in lifesaving with isn't exactly designed for war but provided a lot of the same mentality and perspectives.

Lifesaving? Please expand. And yes lifesaving is a huge part of war. My wife is a corpman in the U.S. Coast Guard.

[karatekid101]

I lost count.

LOL I like that answer. I'm 30, but I feel 20 ( and I still get carded for alcohol ).

But why are you called Karatekid1975?

[isshinryu5toforever]

I was promoted to full adult black belt at the age of 11. It wasn't that my physical prowess was enough that I could take on a gun toting madman. I was promoted because I had the heart and determination of a black belt, and the common sense and intelligence to avoid hazardous situations. I know what you are saying about many young black belts, but I do believe that any sensei worth learning from would recognize those who are worthy and those who are not. We must simply have faith in those individuals who are in charge of these dojos. I do not expect every black belt to be completely qualified to deserve the rank, because there are dojos out there who hand out belts. However, I do believe in my heart that there are many unheralded sensei out there who dread having an extremely talented youth, because they know that some day it will come time for them to make that difficult decision on whether this child is really ready for the responsibility of being designated a black belt. This is just my .02