Police Training

[glockmeister]

Krav Maga, Hapkida, BJJ, are good styles for LE.

I work in corrections. In a prison environment, I have found that submission training works well and hapkido is good as well as BJJ although as far as going to the ground, as someone has posted earlier, You DO NOT WANT TO GO TO THE GROUND. in a realistic scenereo, you go to the ground and even if you are trained in BJJ and all that, chances are while you are getting the bad guy into a submission hold, his cell mate will be kicking your head in.

[Mr Pockets]

Ofcourse it's a good thing to know how to handle yourself on teh ground, but you are much better of with a non-ground MA.

Agreed, but it's still good to know some basics of how to handle yourself down there. Come to think of it, a lot of BJJ instructors will do seminars, and it wouldn't be that hard for someone of instructor level to know and teach what would be useful spefically to law guys in law enforcement.

[ninjanurse]

Having had training and experience in this area I argree with JusticeZero...small circle jujitsu. In fact most law enforcement related martial arts training utilize many small circle techniques and theories.

[man thing]

What's small circle jujitsu?

I don't know think there's any of those around here. Other dojosI know of around here are: TKD( not really considering it), Hapkido, Judo, Kajukembo. I like the sound of Kajukembo, but the ones around here look a little bit commercial. The art I'm in does teach a wide variety of styles. I just don't want to waist any time in tecniques I won't use as much as others.

[CQC]

Japanese Jujitsu would probably best the most effective, in my opinion.

You learn ground technique, standing throws, and tons of submissions and locks. It also assumes that your opponent is always bigger than you, using power from the attacker's own strength and weight - thus giving you an awesome advantage. Because the person will always be close to you during combat (if not you could use other police tactics), you would have no problem taking him/her down using one of the above.

As for Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu, I don't really see how this applies to this situation whatsoever. Yes, it would be ideal to be able to have some good ground game in combat, however BJJ would be unrealistic for an officer due to the gun, etc, as eariler meantioned. It's just too risky, as the police academy would more than likely teach.

As for small circle jujitsu, I can't comment, as I have never seen it in action nor do I have a lot of background information on it. I've Googled around a bit, but nothing seems to say what it's really about - other than saying it's a "modernized" version of classical Japanese Jujitsu.

Still, sounds interesting.

[Mr Pockets]

All the martial arts are pretty unrealistic when the officer has a gun. Seems to me they'd be more for when he or she doesn't.

[Thaegen]

Carriny a gun doesn't mean anything, it's not like in movies you can shoot whenever you want.

[ninjanurse]

Google Professor Wally Jay for more info on small circle jujitsu. It is basically a theory of style by which various techniques are made more effective using principles of the small circle (physics). It applies to both armed and unarmed combat....and is not a modern theory but an ancient one brought into modern language.

[CQC]

Google Professor Wally Jay for more info on small circle jujitsu. It is basically a theory of style by which various techniques are made more effective using principles of the small circle (physics). It applies to both armed and unarmed combat....and is not a modern theory but an ancient one brought into modern language.

Awesome, thanks for the tip!

[CQC]

All the martial arts are pretty unrealistic when the officer has a gun. Seems to me they'd be more for when he or she doesn't.

I agree, however the officer may encounter situations when an officer is forced to put the gun away and physically deal with the situation. Ie: if the person is refusing to follow police commands and requests to do something. True, they'll probably get maced, but then you have follow-up procedures.

They teach a lot in the academy, but I'm pretty sure a black belt in an art similar to Jujitsu would be able to control the person a little more efficiently.