Police Training

[man thing]

What are the most useful styles to police? As a small person considering this as a career, I would appreciate any input,especially if you have any first hand knowledge. More specifically, what do they prefer for you to train in? What would probably be the most useful in encounters?

[TJS]

Judo or brazilian jitsu. Aikido can be useful as well but i think it's best to have a base in one of the first two i mentiond

Krav maga, kali, escrima etc could also be very useful for several aspects including weapons training.

[JusticeZero]

Small-circle jujutsu, anything with standup trapping from what i've heard. The LEO's i've spoken to note that while they end their altercations "on the ground" where they handcuff, the fight is over before then. "How often do you go to the ground?" "All the time, we have to cuff them." "How often do you go to the ground before you put the handcuffs on?" "Probably about 9% of the time." Usually the focus is on disarming and applying submissions to someone in a standing position, at which point the submitted attacker is moved to a position where handcuffs can be applied. This is just what i've gathered from talking with some LEO's and perusing a training manual or two.

[superfighter]

lol, coming from what i went through for my police training, they view most martial arts as useless. that most martial artist havnt got a clue.

I wouldnt let this put you off in training though, everything they taught me was baby stuff. a few slaps, kicks, headbutts. etc

in my opinion martial arts are one of the best things for an officer to do.

it goes beyond locks and handcuffing in my opinion. there are trained streetwise people out there, nasty people, who will tear your head off without a second thought. and although its the worst case scenario you could be on your own whilst this is happening. now if one of these people happened to attack me, i could potentially be killed if i didnt defend myself. this is where the training comes in. in police training they teach you the basics, which i believe just isnt enough. But after years of training in tae kwon do, judo, jeet kun do, i can kick hard, i can punch hard, and i can throw hard. which cant be said for allot of other officers i know, who couldnt fight there way out of a paper bag, im not saying being an officer is all about fighting. But i think allot of the time people underestimate the importance of possessing those skills, sure talking is one thing. but some people wont talk, instead theyll snap. Your colleague might only be 20 seconds away from you, but in those 20 seconds you could be having your head kicked in to the ground by some mug.

for the police force id learn some elements of aikido, jeetkun do for fast flowing locks, a grappling art of your choice and a striking art of your choice. and if the trainers ever give you a hard time about it as they did with me, just think that there the ones missing out.

[jedimc]

Aikido, Systema, a striking art, ground work not that you would want to go on the ground if you are a cop.

[Thaegen]

I am a police officerand in my 1 year education/training I had exactly 20 lessons of 90 minutes selfdefence. Our instructor was a black belt JJ. So don't think you can defend yourself because you are a cop:), I've been also 5 year in the military and we had close combat. Again to few lessons. So being a soldier doesn't mean you can defend yourself:)

You learn techniques which you can use to control your opponent, but don't count it to work:), because everything is trainined in a controled envirm.

I do WT and recently started with MT. WT is good for me, It works.

[man thing]

I really appreciate all of your advice. I am currently training in Cuong Nhu(hard-soft). It is based on Shotokan, Boxing, Aikido, Tai Chi Chan, Judo, Wing Chun, and Vovinam(Viatnamese Style). I'm considering a Judo-only class because I'm not yet confident in my ground fighting: they offer a litle more training against resisting opponents. I just don't know about all these Shotokan kata routines. Another thing I don't like is just being a dummy in grappling drills while the other guy thinks he's done something. After reading the responses, maybe I should just stick with what I'm doing due to the range of styles and the weapons training(short sticks). We do some competitive training and a lot of stand-up grappling.

Any further advice is welcome.

P.S.: Is Wing Tsun anything like Wing Chun?

[JusticeZero]

P.S.: Is Wing Tsun anything like Wing Chun?

Yeah. *ing *un is having a titanic internal political battle, the details of which i'm hazy on, but the sides are so wound up in their civil war that they have tried to tear into or drag me, someone who doesn't even practice CMA, into their political screaming matches on more than one occasion.

[Mr Pockets]

Actually, cops could use ground fighting- NHB style for sure. If you hit the ground you don't necessarily want to be there... you do want to be good enough at it to get back up. Judo isn't bad either. Also, definitely boxing- if punches are being thrown at you you want to know what to do with them, and the thrower, no nonsense.

[Thaegen]

No, as a cop you don't want to go the ground and you certainly don't want to be rolling on the grond. We have a lot of equipment on our belt (batton, pistol, peperspray...). + You are always with two.

+ we can't knock someone in the hospital, we need to react with equal force, so if someone throws a punch at me, I can't chainpunching him to damnation .

Ofcourse it's a good thing to know how to handle yourself on teh ground, but you are much better of with a non-ground MA.