JJJ and The Clinch

[NotQuiteDead]

I know it's not set in stone. I'm not talking about a dictionary definition here, I'm talking about how it's used in wrestling, sub grappling, etc. I already said I was talking about what I see as a throw.

Since you're so concerned about definitions, lets discuss the meaning of 'full contact' while we're at it.

Do you consider what the guy is doing in this picture a 'punch'?

http://www.smithtaekwondo.com/Alexio%20side%20kick.jpg

Most martial artists and people in general probably wouldn't, but according to the dictionary it is:

deliver a quick blow to; "he punched me in the stomach"

Terms used to discuss martial arts don't always mean the dictionary definition.

[GhostlySykanRyu]

I'm not concerned with dictionary definitions , I was trying to use them to help get a point across.

Tomoe Nage is a throw. It has two possible translations into English. "Circle THROW" and "Stomach THROW". Why would so many Judokas and JJJ practitioners refer to something as a throw if it was not indeed a throw?

[NotQuiteDead]

Why would they refer to "Mountain Storm" if it's not a storm? As I said, terms used in martial arts don't always mean the literal definition.

Like I said earlier, in judo nearly anything counts as a throw. Sweeps/trips included. If I trip you does that count as a throw? Soccer players must be great at throwing, then.