JJJ and The Clinch

[traz]

hey all. I'm moving soon and will be going into JJJ. And I was curious, for all you JJJ practioners, does your training help you in the clinch? That's one of my weakest ranges. I realise that all schools/styles etc are different, but from your experiences, has JJJ helped you become a better clinch fighter?

Thanks!

[Straight Blast]

I myself do not take JJJ,but I train in clinch fighting.

Clinch fighting is EXTREMELY useful for the streets,ive taken on MT guys before and got into the clinch very often.If your even a decent clincher fighting an unexperienced opponent...you could end the fight right there.

[Treebranch]

We love the clinch, there are 101 ways of taken someone down from there also lots effective close range strikes from there.

[traz]

I"m aware the clinch is a good place to be proficient at...my question is has JJJ helped you become good at that range hehe

[Venezolano]

If you really want to improve your clinch skills, do Greco Roman Wrestling not JJJ...

[AngryMatt]

Taijutsu will help you tremendously in the clinch, especially if you also have a wrestling background... like me! But clinches in the real world are somewhat different than in wrestling. Wrestling helps you get that good base and maybe work in a takedown, but you don't want to try to break that clinch to work a single leg or something in a streetfight. You want to use the clinch to bust into a fight ending throw of some kind.

But yes, if you train in JJJ, you will do plenty of clinch stuff. Why? Because nearly all streetfights turn into a situation where someone is about to take it to the ground. You want to be in the superior position when it goes down there... don't want to rely on your ground work... who knows if you'll even be conscious at that point if this fight on concrete! So JJJ will teach you a plethora of throws, takedowns and strikes from the clinch. Plus, if you are in true danger, there are plenty of techniques to break that clinch so you can get away.

[Mr Pockets]

I don't know specifically about JJJ and the clinch, although I'm sure it would teach you throws and things like that, but i can tell you that in BJJ, with a teacher who knows anything about MMA or NHB fighting, (which seems to be most of them these days- lots cross train in MT), you'll learn take downs and throws, AND strikes from the clinch.

[mai tai]

before i was converted into the cult of the true bielievers (started muay tai and bbj) i went to a tkd school (earned black belt). so i was in the habit of bowing when i walk in.

if im not thinking about it...i will absent mindedly bow when i walk in.....trained like palovs dog......about to train ...must bow.

most of the time i catch myself and no one sees .....when i dont the rest of the guys start bowwing at me

saying "yes danyo son...if yo respect yo onsestyo ...yo will learn much....asho"

[Treebranch]

Mr Pockets I'm in BJJ and never once has anyone mentioned balance points or any other throws besides basic judo throws. This is something that takes awhile to learn but is really useful. I think it is so worth the time to explore more throws and strikes from the clinch where you don't go down but they do. Most throws is MMA you go down with your opponent, but our throws leave you standing and them on their back. Think of what you could do from that position.

[NotQuiteDead]

Wrestling + knees, elbows, and dirty boxing is the best way to go.

I have yet to see a throw that couldn't be adapted to leave the thrower standing, regardless of style. Even in wrestling I had a bad habit (for wrestling, that is) of not going down when I did a single leg on someone.