Karate Vs Wing chun

[fallen_milkman]

* All blocks are really strikes to secondary targets.

Another large simularity between our arts. We have a block that I have never seen another art do, maybe you guys do it. (Or maybe our art diversity is limited around me? You guys set me straight if I'm wrong, and this is more common than I though!)

Against a lot of attacks, we block it once, with a cross-body block and their arm to block their centerline. Then our second arm strikes the elbow with a ridgehand while our first arm withdraws, then the first arm uses a palm on their shoulder to unbalance them further. When this is done full force I am pretty close to being behind them, and am definitely in a position to strike where they basically can't strike me. Still kinda hard for me to pull off in combat right now, but I am getting WAY better at it.

[ProjectJanus]

I have a video somewhere of a Kyokushin Karate guy crushing 3-I think-Wing Chun guys. Its bizzare, sometimes the guys switch to drunken boxing, and sometimes it looks like its a kungfu of some sort. But anyways, all three guys just get the crap kicked out of them.

[Adonis]

I think I know the video that wasn't wing chun that was drunken boxing. they were more focused on posture and having the "look" of drunken boxing as opposed to using the concepts for actual fighting. so they kyokushin guy kicked there you know whats.

Kept placing round house kicks to there heads alot. those guys looked cool doing the drunken kung fu while they were getting beat down.

[jedimc]

yer but the kyokushin guys wont even trying they just were mucking around.

[Adonis]

I know because they are used to doing contact and "fighting" those drunken kung fu guys seemed more into forms or into particular way there art./style "looked" so they trained in my opinion with the look as being more important then actual application.

[Traditional-Fist]

I have seen the videos a while back.

I saw little, if any, Wing Chun in those fights. There was also a definite lack of intent from ALL of the parties involved, including the Kyokushinkai fighters.

In one of the encounters one of the kung fu guys seems to grab the leg of the Kyokushin fighter and lets go immediately and apolegically.

Another of the encounters where the kung fu guy seemed to be doing quiet well was stopped quickly or may even have been edited, I don't know.

I believe that all this may have been a publicity stunt to promote the name of Kyokushinkai.

Even the kyokushinkai fighters did not seem to have any urgency about them and did not even use the usual aggressive hand techniques that one expects from them in Knockdown tournaments. It was basically all kicks from the kyokushinkai side and mainly hands from the kungfu side. The kung fu guys on the other hand did not seem to grab or want to grab the kicking legs etc. and this is something that might be expected in this type of confrontation.

Anyway, that was my take on it.

P.S. Kyokushinkai is a style of karate that I admire and respect. My comments are solely in reference to the videos that I saw.

[Bloke]

That video has been doing the rounds for some time now. The japanses instructor is Masuda - an excellent fighter in his prime. It was supposed to be just a training exercise - a little light sparring which is why nobody on either side is really going for it - so it doesnt really prove anything.

Traditional Fist is right in his view of the video except to say that It wasn't a publicity stunt to promote Kyokushin but I can see how people are saying that.

[Adonis]

I still say the cma guys were focusing more on look then applicablity in there sparring.

[y2_sub]

some one must have a clip

I recently downloaded a clip showing a kyokushin karateka vs a kung fu guy ( the title says kyokushin vs wing chun but i really think his style was drunkin fist ) . i found it on https://www.kyokushintoday.com in the martial downloads section .

[ClA]

I'd like to add that Wing Chi was invented for war, against the monks. You know when it comes to war, people train to kill. This is why the attacks are more harsh.........they aim for throat, eyes, knee caps, nuts, and most importantly the heart.

Their "Kata" is not fancy at all. No high jumps or high kicks. Everything is solidly rooted onto the ground.