Karate Vs Wing chun

[ovine king]

It was neither of them. The legends of the five elders is just a legend/story used to hide the activities and origins of the styles that were developed at the time.

[ClA]

So you are telling me, that the video created by Leung Ting himself, the grand master of wing chin doesn't know the history of his own style.

And you do?

[ovine king]

Of all the wing chun people, you could do better to choose someone else to base your arguments on. Leung Ting is not the foremost exponent of wing chun, nor does he represent the whole of Yip Man's school, like you are implying. That's not to mention the many questionable events in his wing chun career.

[Adonis]

hmmmmmmmm

[MenteReligieuse]

wing chun vs karate?

I put my money on the baseball bat.

'nuff said.

*yes this post is to show you the uselessness of a Style vs Style comparaion when it would really only depend on the exponents.

[stonecrusher69]

The history of WCK is like religion it's up to you if you want to believe it.

[daedelus4]

The history of WCK is like religion it's up to you if you want to believe it.

Unfortunately, this statement is more true than not. Greetings all. Usually I am a voyeur of sorts to this sute but felt compelled to add my 2cents. Contrary to the popular myth(s), wing chun's true origin dates back a mere 200 years (atleast the styles from northern china) and was created however in the shaolin temple. The name however was not derived from some supposed teaching to a woman who wanted to suppress marriage offers but to the specific training hall inside the temple itself which, loosely translated, meant beautiful springtime or something of the like. There is still a lot of doubt/myths about whether or not the nun ng mui existed or not butwhat is known is that it was the temple in the south, not the north, that was destroyed by fire during the ming dynasty so it is unlikely that the supposed 5 elders of the temple created the art right before it was destroyed. However, having typed all of that, there were monk sympathizers in the war effort which resulted in secret societes such as were covered by the red boat opera troupes who secretly practiced and taught wing chun and, perhaps becuase of the required secrecy of the time, fashioned stories about the art's origin as a wartime strategy to continue its covert activites which are still in circulation today.

However, I myself have studied wingchun under william chueng for about 12 -121/2 years and can personallya ttest that it is a valid fighting skill and is quite effective in real life scenarios. It is true that it lacks ground fighting techniques but unlike tournaments such as UFC or the like most fights, at least in my humble experience, do not end up on the ground. In fact I have only had one such fight and it ended on the ground because I threw the guy to the ground to help a friend fight off another guy (WC is most useful and is very complimentary to combining with Jujitsu, judo or some other grappling art) but, in comparison to generic karate (generic because no specific style is mentioned) I have to say that WC wins hands down absent an extraordinary karatedo. Not only in real life situations but also in point tournaments after a little tweaking but, probaly the truest statement spoken on the subject is that it more than not depends on the training not necessarily the art.