osuperu Posted March 30, 2005 Posted March 30, 2005 Hello.. i have just started shotokan, and have been intived to this feldgling MMA club at my university...they are starting this term with only bag and focus mit work, no ground work now (school legalities)..My question is that im worried if i go to these practices of MMA i'll untrain and/or be slow in learning the shotokan basics/fundamentals that im as we speak trying to learn...any karate guys out there ( rather..anyone with experience) that could let me know if going to these MMA isnt the best thing for me right now..(patience is not my virtue)...i mean im really interested in shotokan...but i like the idea of the bag and mit experience...thanks!
senseipaul Posted March 30, 2005 Posted March 30, 2005 it is my belief that it is never too early to cross train. as a matter of a fact the sooner the better in my opinion.
G95champ Posted March 30, 2005 Posted March 30, 2005 Shotokan is a good base style that will allow you to grow in other styles because its so well rounded. Actually the more cross training you do the better your shotokan will become because you will start to see where shotokan teaches those same moves that people usually don't pul lout until much later in their training. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
osuperu Posted March 30, 2005 Author Posted March 30, 2005 well im just worried that i wont catch on as quickto the shotokan basics if i do the cross training now..when you all train with the heavy bag (if you do)..do you hit it standing in your said style forms...or jsut hit it in the generic boxing stance, circling around..
senseipaul Posted March 30, 2005 Posted March 30, 2005 both. i do not like to stay locked into a style however, i do use many traditional stances. even when i am teaching i try to give a student some "free" time to play with their stance.
cathal Posted March 30, 2005 Posted March 30, 2005 If you are concerned you may take that in with you while you cross-train. Do a few months of Shotokan and then to the MMA. I think you may find you're quite comfortable with your movements. .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu
G95champ Posted March 30, 2005 Posted March 30, 2005 Gichin Funakoshi the founder of Shotkan never said fight in a low stance this is a great miscoception about our art. When you work a bag work it in a freestyle stance unless you are just wanting to focus on a techinque like the reverse punch then of course you want to be in a good stance.Its an ART there is no right and wrong.In shotokan the basics will come just spend time on your kata and things will work out. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
osuperu Posted March 30, 2005 Author Posted March 30, 2005 so i just came back from our first quasi class/meeting.-The emphasis is Muay Thai and later on (next term) will be BJJ... so basically each T and Th will be stand up punhcing/kicking. Its not really 'taught' as much and we just 'do it' and get a feel for it...the lead instructor is just a guy with much expierence in BJJ and Muay Thai..but he's jsut a fellow student.... Its a great great workout, but we'll see how i do tomoorw in shotokan not confusing myself, with what i learned today in muay thai... also..anyone done Muay Thai and a stlye of Karate together??...i know that they both are closer, than say Karate and BJJ for crosstraining...but, in just curious..thanks
pittbullJudoka Posted March 30, 2005 Posted March 30, 2005 I have to agree with senseipaul you can never start cross training too early.Keep an open mind in each class and don't try to incorperate things in from the other classes until you advance some.I train in Kenpo and MMa and have had no problems keeping my studies separate.
G95champ Posted March 30, 2005 Posted March 30, 2005 I use a lot of MT in my shotokanI was a black belt before I got into other styles so it may have came simpler for me. However I teach my kids certin moves from other styles and they pick it up. So I really don't see the problem.Make Shotokan your base and you will be fine. Work other styles off it. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
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