Judo or JJJ

[seersin]

I'm a quite experienced striker and still do Karate to this day.However I was wanting to work on tha grappling end of Ma's more so,and submissions and throws and what-not,Anyway there is a Dojo around me that has a Judo and a JJJ class.I was jsut wondering which you guys prefer,which you have more fun with.Thanks in advance!!!

[TJS]

Judo would be my pick personally but try both classes and see whitch one you like more.

[SevenStar]

I agree with tjs. I'd gravitate to judo, but try them both out and see what YOU like.

[seersin]

I appriciate it guys,I think Im gonna try Judo,and ask If I can come in on an JJJ class as well though.I looked at a Judo website and didn't know that Judo incorporated so many chokes and locks and holds as well.I knew it had some but did not know there was as many as there is.

[Treebranch]

Judo is good if you're already a striker. When you get pretty good at Judo start to look for ways to fit your strikes in. For example, look at the way someone reacts to your hits and see what happens to the body and creates space for you to move into a throw or lock. Just something to keep in mind.

[seersin]

In Enshin Karate we do a lot of Gi grabs and throw knees and roundhouses,we do a few trips and sweeps that I'm told come from Judo.So I figure Judo is tha way to go.

[ravenzoom]

Well if you want to learn how to grapple, Judo is the way between these two (although JJJ has some grappling moves). But Judo comes from JJJ, and is concentrated on grappling. A thing that not all people seem to know is that Judo does teach a ground game and that there are chokes, arm bars, etc. And if you're in a good dojo you'll see a lot of ground game, at least this is the case in my dojo.

[dingyuan]

What's wrong with JJJ, why is that nobody like it?

[CQC]

I adore JJJ, however if you want to get into grappling get into Judo or BJJ. JJJ has a fair amount of focus on ground work, at least in my dojo, however if you're looking to get full into grabbling tornaments etc. then another MA may be better suited.

However, with JJJ you'll also learn throws, pressure points, joint locks, submissions - all that good stuff. There's just more of a focus on everything else to do with fighting rather than simply submissions and pure ground fighting.

[GhostlySykanRyu]

"we do a few trips and sweeps that I'm told come from Judo.So I figure Judo is tha way to go."

Judo was derived from JJJ, so I wouldn't base your decision on that. Judo is basically a sporting art based on JJJ. Jigoro Kano took out all of the dangerous techniques so they could be used in competition. The training methods of the two arts tend to be different because Judo can be practiced as a sport. In fact, if you find a Judo dojo that teaches purely for self defense, consider yourself lucky.

"What's wrong with JJJ, why is that nobody like it?"

That isn't really the case. Judo seems to simply fit his needs better. He asked for purely grappling/throws/submissions. He didn't say anything about actual self defense, and he did say that he was already a good striker, so Judo would likely be beter suited for him.

If he wanted a well rounded art that is purely for self defense, I would suggest Jujutsu instead.