Nihon Goshin Aikido and Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu

[gordo]

I was searching around for school yesterday and found a school that was using the term Goshin Aikijujutsu...I actually attended a Aikido school for one class...I joined but much to my dismay, someone who doesn't exactly get along with me is a high ranking belt. This was a Nihon Goshin Aikido school, which wasn't exactly under Usheba (sp??), but under a Sensei Morita, who studied many different styles of martial arts. From what I understand it puts a little more emphasis on defense and although circular does aim to 'keep the peace'. So I went searching for another one and found one that is just a bit too far away, but after talking to them, they also teach under the Nihon Goshin Aikido label except they are independent...and they seem to have one time taught Aikijujutsu. After talking to them they said that many of the aikijujutsu moves are kept in, but the aikijujutsu was a bit too brutal for them. What's the difference between the two? Luckily I found a jiu jitsu place nearby as I love joint locks, but one day I may like to give this place a go. So just wondering if anyone knows the difference in styles between the two.

THanks!

[ryansuh]

hi gordo..

the difference between aikido and aikijutsu is essentially in the philosphy and the manifestion of that philosophy in the application of the technique

Aikido was derived from aikijutsu, but with the fundamental idea of peace and harmony infused with the techniques, while aikijutsu in and of it's own is purely a set of techniques that were designed for samurai to incapacitate or kill his opponent

for example, many of the techniques you see in aikido can potentially be letal (i.e. breaking shoulders, breaking neck etc etc). But it is practiced with sufficient self-control so that even if you faced a real attacker, you will be trained to use the technique just enough to disable the attacker..not to break him/her

nihon goshin aikido (which im studying as well) is a "harder" former of aikido.. (hard as in not difficult but including aggressive techniques and ...more along the line of aikijutsu and pre-ww2 aikido such as yoshinkan)

kenjutsu -> kendo

jujutsu -> judo

aikijutsu -> aikido

the three japanese martial arts you hear about these days are essentially cleaned up version of old samurai martial techniques

hope that answers your question

[AngryMatt]

Derived from the samurai and, yes, ninja arts. If you want to train in the combat side of ninjitsu, go seek out a Bujinkan dojo... they are good at teaching many of the aspects of Budo Taijutsu. Hard to find a true ninjitsu school outside of Japan.

Anyhow, a ton of things derived from those nine aspects of the art of Budo Taijutsu, including judo, kenpo, akido, jujitsu, etc. Frankly, I think getting a good combination of judo, bjj and a striking art is what you want to do if you can't find a Bujinkan dojo or, like me, just some guy who happens to be 3rd Dan in Taijutsu and lets you train for free.

It will get intense, it will get pretty brutal. You'll be bruised up like no other and you'll be drawing in spars after a few months, but it's 100% worth it if you want to be a good all around fighter. Plus, every once in awhile you get to do live bjj style goes with limited striking. For a guy who loves submissions, that's up your alley.