san shou

[SevenStar]

In this month's issue of kung fu/qigong magazine, there is an article about getting CMA schools to support san shou and promote san shou training within their school. His suggestion to setting up a curriculum was basically to do the following:

 

pick 5 punching techniques from your style

 

pick 3 kicking techniques

 

pick 3 throwing techniques

 

He says to combine that with conditioning and drilling, making those few techniques second nature....the person who does one technique 1,000 times is better off than the person who does 1,000 techniques one time... so, simplicity is key here. He goes on to say that you can still retain the essence of your style, even with the gloves and limited techniques. This is what will keep san shou varied.

 

Overall, it sounds like they are on to something - I hope that it catches on with all schools. Has anyone else seen this article yet?

[ravenzoom]

No I didn't read it, but I find this idea interesting. You don't need to know 2000 techniques to be effective. Perhaps to those mentioned I'd add a few moves on the ground also. If you know basic moves in every aspect of fighting and they become second nature you can become a pretty effective fighter who doesn't think at what he should do but simply reacts. I have nothing against this approach, I believe it can be quite useful in fact.

[ovine king]

the most obvious thing to say is that within EVERY style, there aren't more than maybe 5 core techniques anyway.

 

strip away all the faff and what you're left with are very simple movements.

 

move arm out (with punch/palm/whatever)

 

move arm in (grab/pull/whatever)

 

kick with hip square

 

kick with hip turned

 

these are the most basic motions and really, they should be the first things you practice anyway.

 

the thing is, i'm not entirely pleased that it takes an 'outside' organisation to promote this.

 

at the end of the day, padded training is an aspect we should all have as part of our regime.

 

i mean, what harm is there is getting some light padding and actually hitting each other?

 

what's that about learning to swim without getting wet?

[Iron Arahat]

In this month's issue of kung fu/qigong magazine, there is an article about getting CMA schools to support san shou and promote san shou training within their school. His suggestion to setting up a curriculum was basically to do the following:

 

pick 5 punching techniques from your style

 

pick 3 kicking techniques

 

pick 3 throwing techniques

 

He says to combine that with conditioning and drilling, making those few techniques second nature....the person who does one technique 1,000 times is better off than the person who does 1,000 techniques one time... so, simplicity is key here. He goes on to say that you can still retain the essence of your style, even with the gloves and limited techniques. This is what will keep san shou varied.

 

Overall, it sounds like they are on to something - I hope that it catches on with all schools. Has anyone else seen this article yet?

 

I haven't read the article, but this is really nothing new for schools that participate in San Shou tournaments, fights, etc...

 

San Shou fighters are usually specialists within a style, as that is there focus the competition. Just like there are breakers, people who specialize in specific styles or forms within a system.'

 

In my exerience as a retired fighter and trainer is that San Shou is varied, just because you get people from different styles participating. There are very few schools that are just San Shou, with a few exceptions. Most offer training as a seperate activity from classes.

[SevenStar]

Nah, it's not new, but it's not the norm either. I think what he's getting at is that he'd like to see ALL cma schools go this route. He is registered on the kung fu magazine forums and has been posting on a thread I started about it over there.