Watched a fight last night

[MASIsshinryu]

In every jurisdiction I know of, from the moment

His body went mostly limp

, the other person became the aggressor, and lost any possible claim of self defense. Continuing the use of force after the previously immenant threat has ceased is an arrestable offense, just as the other persons initial aggression was. Further, the act described would easily be agrued as an unnecessary escalation of the level of force, and the civil suit which could follow would be extremely difficult to defend against, if not impossible.

 

Good technique, wrong time.

[Rathe]

Yea he might have felt like a bad a$$ at the time. But now that he's recovered from his alcohol induced state he's going to regret breaking that arm.

 

Hope the girl they were arguing over was worth it. Did the guy get arrested who did it or did he split right after the fight?

[DKizzle]

I agree. That guy knew what he was doing, and he could easily get in trouble for it too.

 

And no, I can't recall any take-downs in TKD either.

[cathal]

I don't know, we reported it of course, but I doubt it. We didn't know who it was so I don't think he was arrested. I don't know if the loser said much about the identity of the big guy.

[Kicks]

In our TKD one-steps we do have takedowns and sweeps. We do one similiar to the one the OP described. Attacker steps in with punch; defender steps back and blocks and grabs attacking arm; pull arm towards defender's hip and execute side kick to attacker's ribs; immediately use same leg to hook kick to head (coming from around back of head and over the locked arm) and roundhouse to face.

To me it seems this technique would leave you standing on one leg too long and vulnerable to being pushed down, but you never know if in 'real life situation' that the side kick would immobilize the attacker enough to stop any further aggression. But hey, it's a technique I was required to learn, so I did.

Edited March 23, 2005 by Kicks

[cathal]

If we were to do that, we'd grab hold of the attacker's arm and perform a side thrust kick to the ribs or hips. Then let go, and finish him off if it was effective enough a strike.

[PrideampPoise]

We have a whole set of techniques (15) that involve either blocking and/or catcthing the punch and following up with a single kick to a specific pressure point, at a specific angle and with a specific part of your foot. They are taught fairly early and I'm not sure if later techniques build on them, since I haven't progressed that far yet.

I would agree that trying to execute three kicks like that would seem to leave you vulnerable for a long time, especially if there is another potential attacker around. If the first kick is effective, I would think you could follow up with something less risky. If it wasn't effective, I don't think you'd want to remain in that same position, trying to get off a second kick.

[cathal]

If the first kick wasn't very effective the opponent may be off guard from it at least. You could attack the elbow I think.

[Red J]

Once he had the attacker on the ground, and executed the "hammer" fist to the head, he should have stopped as the threat was no longer there. The breaking of the arm is unfortunate as he is basically taking the guy "out of commission" for a minumum of 6-8 weeks or longer, depending on the fracture.

I have seen a simular tech done from where a person has trapped the punch towards the right hip, and has the opponent off balance, bent forward at the hips, with the arm reaching out (usually by a check kick, arm manipulation or both). The defender then does a left crescent to the head, continues over the outstretched arm and comes down with the arm between his legs in a perfect elbow break postion, finishing with just about any kind of hand stike or stomp. It's very nasty.

[cathal]

Yes the feel of the fight was very violent. The man was out to do that to him; I don't know what they had between them as far as a history, but it looked like it culminated in that fight.