Watched a fight last night

[cathal]

Hello all,

 

I watched a very quick fight last evening, after leaving a club. We were there to celebrate a good friend's birthday, but none of us had been drinking much. I had the most, at three beer. My friends and I left, and were waiting outside in the cold for a taxi, when two guys came out of the place arguing about a girl. The larger of the two (much, much larger--we guessed he was 6'2", whereas we think the other was 5'7") started pushing the other one.

 

Well, as the cliché goes, push came to shove and the fight started, and it was so fast! The shorter guy stepped into punch with his right arm, to the taller one's head. But the guy was ready for it, or at least it seemed that way, and grabbed the guy's arm with his own right hand. He did a hook kick to the shorter one's head, but not very hard. He hooked his kicking leg around the guys' arm, and took him to the ground.

 

As he landed, he did what we think was a standard gidan berai block, but this was striking the guy's head, in the same place as he had just been kicked. The guy was on his stomach, and his right arm was still trapped in the taller guy's bended right leg. His body went mostly limp and we figured that was all, but to finish him off, the tall guy kiai'd as he went into a left-leg forward front stance...we heard the guy's arm break from where we were, like 20 feet away.

 

We're pretty sure it lasted only something like 10 seconds, but while we watched it, it felt like it took a long time. Everybody that was watching was in kind of a shock and it felt like we all waited too long before calling an ambulance, or even reacting at all. You see this kind of fight on television & movies, but when something like that happens in real life there isn't applause or cheers...just broken arms and maybe a jaw.

[mindsedgeblade]

A practical use for one step spars... I think I'll have to try that one next time I go to the dojo- minus the breaking of course. Don't want to break any partners.

[cathal]

Yes, the strategy there seems very practiced. The guy knew what we was doing.

[PrideampPoise]

Please forgive my ignorance, but what is a "standard gidan berai block"? I practice Kuk Sool Won, which is Korean, and I'm not familiar with that terminology.

 

The grab and kick is actually one of a set of techniques we practice, but I'm curious about the block, and we don't practice the grabbing of the arm with the leg, at least not at my level (red belt).

[isshinryu5toforever]

it's a downblock. The hooking of the arm is a trap, if you really think of application in some of your forms or even with some of your techniques I am sure you'll figure out how it works. Sounds like an unecessary use of force, and besides that by pushing the guy he was the one antagonizing the smaller guy.

[cathal]

Here is an example, from a Google image search: http://www.budopoint.de/Karate/Karate_Grundtechniken/GedanBarai.jpg

 

Yes, I tend to agree, that guy was just out to do damage.

[cathal]

Has anyone seen that kind of combination before? Maybe its something that is taught in your dojo? It could maybe tell us what style of martial arts he knows.

[mindsedgeblade]

I've been working on a similar one-step spar. Right hand parry block, hook kick over the arm, round house to the face, then maybe a take-down. Not saying I'd actually use it in any real situation though.

 

My style is mostly TKD.

[cathal]

I didn't think there were take-downs in TKD

[mindsedgeblade]

I didn't think there were take-downs in TKD

Keyword is "mostly TKD", but now I'm going to have to ask my instructor about that one.