Choy Lay Fut vs. Muay Thai

[Thaegen]

Blocking low kicks? Why, would you do taht? Just kick in his balls.. you will be faster.. you go in a direct line.. while the one who does a low kick will not.. or if he is not so good at lowkicks.. and you see it coming .. just kick to his other leg.. He will collapse to the ground.

 

Blocking low kicks is stupid.. and painfull.. Just front thrust kick and close the distance..

[Snakeeel]

I'm sorry but I ain't blocking anything with my chin.

[Thaegen]

The most important thing is that you go forward.

[Infrazael]

Yes. . ... . that's the whole philosophy of CLF fighting anyways. . ..

[SevenStar]

Blocking low kicks? Why, would you do taht? Just kick in his balls.. you will be faster.. you go in a direct line.. while the one who does a low kick will not.. or if he is not so good at lowkicks.. and you see it coming .. just kick to his other leg.. He will collapse to the ground.

 

Blocking low kicks is stupid.. and painfull.. Just front thrust kick and close the distance..

 

blocking low kicks doesn't hurt when done right and when properly conditioned. that is something that comes in time.

 

kicks to the groin aren't necessarily the best way to go. I've shrugged them off and know others who have done the same. In my case, I didn't feel it until after the fight was done.

[SevenStar]

As to Muay Thai, I also think their low kicks are my biggest problems. We don't kick very often in CLF; my question to Thai boxers if how do you counter the low kick???

 

****Chin Block is the way how the Muay Thai would use to encounter low kick****

 

Nothing is more effective and simple than that.

 

Till now, I have only seen 1 Kung Fu master can give me another option

 

to tackle Muay Thai Low Kick and prove to be effective

 

the shin block is definitely not the only way. if you see the kick coming, a straight line attack (as someone mentioned above) can work well. you can teep to his midsection, or to the upper thigh of the kicking leg. You can also nail him with a cross.

 

Another tactic is the cut kick. This is when you kick the supporting leg of the opponent while he is kicking. So, he kicks. As he kicks, you launch a roundhouse of your own, right to his supporting leg. this has a couple of advantages:

 

1. it lessens the blow to you, as you are turning away from his kick

 

2. you are attacking his support leg, hopefully knocking him down, but at the least compromising his balance.

[dingyuan]

"Centre gate elbow" ?

 

Are you talking about 內門頂肘....

 

Bajin is surely very powerful in the application of body slam

 

& elbow usage.

 

But always has a hard time before get into its

 

fighting range if fight with MT. You need to encounter

 

the low kick of MT first. I have some friend practising

 

Bajin and of course some is inspired by Virtual Fighter

 

Actually I was talking about 頂心肘. I know 外門頂肘 but have never really heard of 內門頂肘 but it could be the other name for center gate elbow.

 

Yes you are VERY right, range is ALWAYS my problem, Baji Quan is only good is close range, it does have some long range moves but they are all crapy. I myself learned a lot of Muay Thai low kicks from a friend of mine and I actually use them a lot during sparring.

 

Tell you the truth, I too went to learn Baji Quan because of Virtua Fighter and one thing for sure is that if it's not for Virtua Fight, there will be way lesser people still know about Baji Quan today, some people will say that Baji Quan was actually made famous by Virtua fighter.

 

Yes, the same thing 內門頂肘 is the other name for center gate elbow

 

By the way, do you mind to tell me where you learn Baiji Quan?

 

Just would like to know.

 

I am learning Baji Quan in Vancouver Canada.

[Ali]

I'm sorry but I ain't blocking anything with my chin.

 

 

Should be Shin la,

 

Typing mistake.... Ha Ha

[Ali]

Blocking low kicks? Why, would you do taht? Just kick in his balls.. you will be faster.. you go in a direct line.. while the one who does a low kick will not.. or if he is not so good at lowkicks.. and you see it coming .. just kick to his other leg.. He will collapse to the ground.

 

Blocking low kicks is stupid.. and painfull.. Just front thrust kick and close the distance..

 

Why blocking?

 

Because everyone has the chance to be hit.

 

Blocking is one of the option you need to know unless you said

 

that I am very fast and never encounter that situation.

 

Kick in his ball?

 

This rests on the point about possibilities and effectiveness.

 

Muay Thai usually would use left push kick to keep you from the

 

distance before applying right low kick. Push kick makes

 

the opponent lose balance.

 

Of course, sometimes would be 1-2 punch and follow by right low kick.

 

BTW, I do sparring with my Wing Chun friends sometime and indeed

 

3 kicking techniques of Wing Chun cannot have very effect in

 

tackling MT low kick. But I have to admit that elbow force generated from

 

Wing Chun can be merit in Muay Thai neck wrestling.

[Thaegen]

Sevenstar if you don't feel a kick to your "balls" because you are so pumped up/adrealine boost. That's very handy.

 

I go down, even if the hit wasn't very hard. Sometimes I even go down when wearing my groinprotection.

 

BUT a kick to the groin/balls will in most cases be sufficent to counter a low kick or another kind of kick.

 

It will not be always perfect, but in my opinion it is wrong to think about blocking... For me a block is an attack that failed or was intercepted. Blocking just to block is not good.

 

And you don't go straight ahead. You move from his centerline, but you are still aiming your centerline on his centerline.. you go in a small angle... when you kick or punch.

 

you close the distance so fast as you can and than you keep the distance to a minimum.

 

And Ali, the tree kicks from wing chun/tsun are good enough to counter lowkicks, the second kick(frontal thrusting kick) from chum kiu is very effective. You intend is to destroy. (knee, balls). If we kick at the same time a frontal thrusting kick will always be faster than a non-frontal kick.... pure mathematical.