Choy Lay Fut vs. Muay Thai

[dingyuan]

Hmmm. . . . . similar, but not exactly the same (as we are experts in the spinning Gwa Choy - backfist).

 

If i'm fighting normal stance (not southpaw), and I jab with my left, followed by a huge Sao Choy while spinning towards the direction I'm hitting - a full 360 degrees. The area of impact is everything from the skull, neck to collarbone and shoulders.

 

Or, we can do it the not so fun way by simply doing a Sao from a bow stance - not as cool looking, but still powerful nontheless.

 

Sao Choy哨拳

 

I simply just worried you may have a chance to hurt your elbow

 

when fighting with MT. This is particular when MT people

 

get close to you with his hand putting near temple and elbow point at you.

 

Your Sao Choy would be out of the most powerful point and

 

the force would rest on you elbow joint.

 

Pretty interesting stuff you got got there, I personally haven't yet fought any CLF or Muay Thai fighter, I was wondering what will happen if I pit Baji Quan's "Centre gate elbow" against "Sao Choy" or a Muay Thai kick? By the way I know Muay Thai kicks are extremely powerful that is why learn most of my low kicks from Muay Thai.

[Infrazael]

Is the center gate elbow a level elbow strike while sliding into an opponent in horse stance???

[Pinmaster]

i think muay thai will win it all.

[dingyuan]

Is the center gate elbow a level elbow strike while sliding into an opponent in horse stance???

 

Yeah something like that but that's a bear step instead of a horse stance.

[Ali]

Pretty interesting stuff you got got there, I personally haven't yet fought any CLF or Muay Thai fighter, I was wondering what will happen if I pit Baji Quan's "Centre gate elbow" against "Sao Choy" or a Muay Thai kick? By the way I know Muay Thai kicks are extremely powerful that is why learn most of my low kicks from Muay Thai.

 

"Centre gate elbow" ?

 

Are you talking about 內門頂肘....

 

Bajin is surely very powerful in the application of body slam

 

& elbow usage.

 

But always has a hard time before get into its

 

fighting range if fight with MT. You need to encounter

 

the low kick of MT first. I have some friend practising

 

Bajin and of course some is inspired by Virtual Fighter

[dingyuan]

Pretty interesting stuff you got got there, I personally haven't yet fought any CLF or Muay Thai fighter, I was wondering what will happen if I pit Baji Quan's "Centre gate elbow" against "Sao Choy" or a Muay Thai kick? By the way I know Muay Thai kicks are extremely powerful that is why learn most of my low kicks from Muay Thai.

 

"Centre gate elbow" ?

 

Are you talking about 內門頂肘....

 

Bajin is surely very powerful in the application of body slam

 

& elbow usage.

 

But always has a hard time before get into its

 

fighting range if fight with MT. You need to encounter

 

the low kick of MT first. I have some friend practising

 

Bajin and of course some is inspired by Virtual Fighter

 

Actually I was talking about 頂心肘. I know 外門頂肘 but have never really heard of 內門頂肘 but it could be the other name for center gate elbow.

 

Yes you are VERY right, range is ALWAYS my problem, Baji Quan is only good is close range, it does have some long range moves but they are all crapy. I myself learned a lot of Muay Thai low kicks from a friend of mine and I actually use them a lot during sparring.

 

Tell you the truth, I too went to learn Baji Quan because of Virtua Fighter and one thing for sure is that if it's not for Virtua Fight, there will be way lesser people still know about Baji Quan today, some people will say that Baji Quan was actually made famous by Virtua fighter.

[Infrazael]

i think muay thai will win it all.

 

You're a NOOB. I know of harder Thai boxers and hard CLF guys, I know ppl from either style who could crush others of the opposing style.

 

I would've said the same thing if you said CLF would crush everything else too. Nothing has it all. . ... . there are differences, but it all comes down to the level of the practitioner.

Yes you are VERY right, range is ALWAYS my problem, Baji Quan is only good is close range, it does have some long range moves but they are all crapy. I myself learned a lot of Muay Thai low kicks from a friend of mine and I actually use them a lot during sparring.

 

Then you'll probably have to worry about CLF even more with Baji Quan. CLF is a southern longfist style. . . . . . we can fight close if we want to, but our speciality lies in smashing your guard and body from far away.

 

As to Muay Thai, I also think their low kicks are my biggest problems. We don't kick very often in CLF; my question to Thai boxers if how do you counter the low kick???

 

Thanks I really appreciate any replies.

 

As for this discussion it's long quite well. . . . . . neither a flame war nor a style basher.

 

Peace.

[Ali]

"Centre gate elbow" ?

 

Are you talking about 內門頂肘....

 

Bajin is surely very powerful in the application of body slam

 

& elbow usage.

 

But always has a hard time before get into its

 

fighting range if fight with MT. You need to encounter

 

the low kick of MT first. I have some friend practising

 

Bajin and of course some is inspired by Virtual Fighter

 

Actually I was talking about 頂心肘. I know 外門頂肘 but have never really heard of 內門頂肘 but it could be the other name for center gate elbow.

 

Yes you are VERY right, range is ALWAYS my problem, Baji Quan is only good is close range, it does have some long range moves but they are all crapy. I myself learned a lot of Muay Thai low kicks from a friend of mine and I actually use them a lot during sparring.

 

Tell you the truth, I too went to learn Baji Quan because of Virtua Fighter and one thing for sure is that if it's not for Virtua Fight, there will be way lesser people still know about Baji Quan today, some people will say that Baji Quan was actually made famous by Virtua fighter.

 

Yes, the same thing 內門頂肘 is the other name for center gate elbow

 

By the way, do you mind to tell me where you learn Baiji Quan?

 

Just would like to know.

[Ali]

Then you'll probably have to worry about CLF even more with Baji Quan. CLF is a southern longfist style. . . . . . we can fight close if we want to, but our speciality lies in smashing your guard and body from far away.

 

As to Muay Thai, I also think their low kicks are my biggest problems. We don't kick very often in CLF; my question to Thai boxers if how do you counter the low kick???

 

****Chin Block is the way how the Muay Thai would use to encounter low kick****

 

Nothing is more effective and simple than that.

 

Till now, I have only seen 1 Kung Fu master can give me another option

 

to tackle Muay Thai Low Kick and prove to be effective

[Infrazael]

What's the chin block??? I've never heard of it.

 

Forgive my ignorance.