Choy Lay Fut vs. Muay Thai

[SevenStar]

I know it wasn't intended to be that - I haven't mentioned that at all. I'm skeptical that your forearm can match my kick in strength no matter what style I train in, considering the strength difference between the arm and leg...

[Infrazael]

Hmm. . . OK, I think I may have been too up in my head to say they are of the same power, but I wouldn't really know until I've calculated both using physics. . . . force, momentum, kinetic energy etc.

 

So yeah. . . . . but the reason that I say that is because with the Sao Choy, the entire body weight is also behind it. I know that's what the roundhouse is supposed to be as well, but with the Sao there is also that centripetal force from the spinnin, as well as gravitational force.

 

But one thing's for sure: They both hurt like hell.

 

Peace.

[SevenStar]

monday night, I put a bruise on someone's arm with a kick....and he was holding thai pads.

 

you mentioning "spinning" through off the picture I had in my head... is it like a spinning backfist, only with the forearm? do you have a link that shows it?

[Infrazael]

Hmmm. . . . . similar, but not exactly the same (as we are experts in the spinning Gwa Choy - backfist).

 

If i'm fighting normal stance (not southpaw), and I jab with my left, followed by a huge Sao Choy while spinning towards the direction I'm hitting - a full 360 degrees. The area of impact is everything from the skull, neck to collarbone and shoulders.

 

Or, we can do it the not so fun way by simply doing a Sao from a bow stance - not as cool looking, but still powerful nontheless.

[Ali]

Hmmm. . . . . similar, but not exactly the same (as we are experts in the spinning Gwa Choy - backfist).

 

If i'm fighting normal stance (not southpaw), and I jab with my left, followed by a huge Sao Choy while spinning towards the direction I'm hitting - a full 360 degrees. The area of impact is everything from the skull, neck to collarbone and shoulders.

 

Or, we can do it the not so fun way by simply doing a Sao from a bow stance - not as cool looking, but still powerful nontheless.

 

Sao Choy哨拳

 

I simply just worried you may have a chance to hurt your elbow

 

when fighting with MT. This is particular when MT people

 

get close to you with his hand putting near temple and elbow point at you.

 

Your Sao Choy would be out of the most powerful point and

 

the force would rest on you elbow joint.

[Ali]

If CLF try to fight with MT, MT Low kick is still

 

the problem you should overcome first.

 

Another point is if CLF wearing glove would be

 

of more adverse situation than MT's

[Infrazael]

Ali I'm a little confused by your point. . . . sorry. . . are you saying I will hit their elbow, or mine???

 

I'm not worried about hitting anything hard with the Sao personally. . . all that forearm conditioning has to pay off sometime.

[Ali]

Ali I'm a little confused by your point. . . . sorry. . . are you saying I will hit their elbow, or mine???

 

I'm not worried about hitting anything hard with the Sao personally. . . all that forearm conditioning has to pay off sometime.

 

Sorry to make you confused.

 

I think it is better to find some photo of Sao

 

before we continues. I want more to discuss CLF

 

What I am talking about is the range of attack for Sao

 

and what this may encounter if facing a MT fighter.

[Infrazael]

The range for the Sao Choy is typically very long. The striking area is the inside of the forearm. Getting hit in the head with a good one is almost a guarantee KO. . . .

 

The longfist techniques of CLF has many variations too. For example, the Kup is like the Sao, except that the thumb is resting at the side, and the striking area is the foreknuckles (closed) all the way to the underside of the forearm, while the Deng Choy is usually thrown more vertically up/down, and the foreknuckles are folded in the "leopard paw" and can still "cut" the opponent if you miss with the forearms. The Biu Jong is not a downward roundhouse smash, but rather an diagonally upward, outward strike with the knuckles, forearms, or like a hammerfist but with the top of the fist rather than the bottom.

[Muaythaiboxer]

the leg is longer than the arm so it has more momentum the leg mussles are stronger than the arm so it has more strenth than the forearm that shin is a stronger bone than the forearm i dont see many pros to the sao but im shure it is a powerful technique.