Close quarters combat

[Guan yu]

What do you guys think of close quarters combat? how effective is it? i know that it is the style used by the us and uk army and was originally taught to the shanghai police force.

[Cmon]

I would personally say very important and effective. You telling me in fights you don't end up right next to your opponent?

[Scand]

It's a style? Tell me more. I'm asking just out of pure curiousy.

 

[Ted T.]

It is not a style, it is what happens when two people fight at touching range before stepping back or grabbing on.

 

It has come to represent the WWII approach of Fairbairn and his American counterparts, Sykes and Applegate...often abreviated as FAS.

 

Fairbairn wrote a combat manual called Get Tough and Applegate wrote a manual for the marines called Kill of Get Killed.

 

Some links that may or may not get you to something interesting are:

 

http://www.ejmas.com/

 

http://www.stormpages.com/handtohand22/page5.htm

 

http://stickgrappler2.tripod.com/cqc/cqc.html

 

http://www.vrazvedka.ru/main/learning/ruk-b/fairbairn-01.shtml

 

http://www.gutterfighting.org/Main.html

 

(http://www.gutterfighting.org doesn't work??)

 

While the techniqes are found in every martial art, the concepts of how to fight are a radical approach to that found in most modern dojo, kwoon, or whatever.

 

These concepts are designed to overcome the sparring mentality of most martial arts which gets the practioner killed when facing a real fighter.

 

They include pre-emptive striking, forward driving force with no consideration for what your opponent is doing, just attack, and attacking only very vulnerable targets, eyes, throat, groin, knees. etc.

 

As simple as it is, it's effectiveness depends upon the person using it, the situation and the fickle finger of fate (named Mr. Murphy).

[CQC]

Ted T., it's not a martial arts style, however it is indeed a style.

 

Everything you meantioned seems fairly accurate, however, you have to remember the LINE system.

 

For those you don't know what the LINE system is, it is basically just a system of close combat techniques focusing on wristlocks, counters against chokeholds, counters against punches and kicks, unarmed defense against the knife, knife fighting, "taking out" the enemy, and other unarmed defenses against things like a bayonet attack (obviously for Army personel).

 

So as for attacking regardless of what the enemy is doing, that's untrue.

 

Although the sole intent is to seriously hurt or even kill your opponent in most cases.

[Treebranch]

Sounds useful for it's designed purpose which is the case for most fighting systems.

[Ted T.]

From my limited and narrow pov, LINE is not FAS.

 

If the style advocates counters, it is not FAS.

 

If it advocates fighting unarmed against a knife, it is not FAS.

 

If the attitude is that the fight should be over before he knows its started, that's FAS.

 

FAS suits me a little better than does LINE.

[Master Jules]

It is a style.....I teach it.....Its called CQB....close quarter battle....and yes, its VERY effective.

[Chaz]

From what I've seen of it, looks really effective to me... Some things I've seen reminds me of San Soo...