2 hand strikes

[pineapple]

Various arts teach striking an opponent with both hands simultaneously. I am wondering if anyone in the forum has actually used such techniques?

 

I am not talking about blocking and striking together but striking the body and/or head simultaneously with the left and right hand.

[scottnshelly]

I've seen these types that you are talking about, they seem impracticle to me. They would leave your entire body and head open for a counter and you little chance of blocking and/or countering. Those that attack high and low would also put you off balance, leaning forward.

 

It may just be that i've never seen one of these double hand strikes used in a good way, but i don't think, in general, that they are useful.

 

the only exception to this that i could possibly think of would be two very short hand strikes to the same area - both sides of the neck, both ears, etc. i definately wouldn't try one high and one low or even both low.

[Shorin Ryuu]

Yes. There are ways of doing double strikes without comprimising your centerline and structural mechanics. You can also do it without compromising your balance. There are certainly many that can not or do not do this (usually more of a blind repetition of kata rather than a serious practitioner of it), but that doesn't mean it isn't possible. It's not that difficult either.

 

Scoff as much as you want, but double hand strikes to certain areas have the ability to disrupt someone's balance/energy/ki/nervous system/breathing/whatever. Sometimes they are simultaneous, sometimes they are timed one after another (timing is somewhat precise but not that demanding in terms of precision).

 

Pineapple, ask Skeptic2004 what happened when our first instructor did a double strike on him...

 

Anyway, please read my post on page two of this thread:

 

http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=16088&start=10

 

I wouldn't necessarily use it in the situation that the person asked about. I was just describing it because someone talked about it and I wanted to provide a more structurally sound and practical usage of the technique. Again, I'm not advocating it for the situation in question in that thread...

[vertigo]

I'm sure such strikes exist, though I've never been taught them (which doesn't surprise me too much at my level).. I also have to agree with scottnshelly a bit. It seems like, generally speaking, it'd be a risky attack, because it fully commits you to the attack (not unlike a strong side thrust is a powerful attack, but it takes so much more time compared to a front snap kick [or pretty much anything else])

 

This is a shot in the dark, since I don't know the application of the kata, but does Bassai Dai have a "2 hand strike"? If you've seen the kata, I think you know what part I'm talking about.

[Shorin Ryuu]

Yes. There's some pretty nice applications to that one. But to clarify, you don't need to "overly commit" to these double strikes in order for them to be effective. The reason for that is the same reason you don't need to "overly commit" for any single strike to be effective either.

 

That double strike I described in the thread I linked to above is just one of the many (obviously) ways to do a double strike...you mentioned you haven't been shown any, but some of these can just figure out yourself. Relying on your instructor is good, but you shouldn't expect them to give everything to you.

[Ted T.]

I've never even been able to use double strikes during sparring but in the "physical management and control of agressive angry clients" I have always used the block and push (soft strike) at the same time.

 

Works very well.

[ShotokanKid]

I've seen this in a kata but I can't remember what it was

 

sorry for my unhelpfullness

[Mr. Mike]

well, there is always the double ear slap.

[Red J]

I have never used a "double" in a real situation.

 

One application that I feel to be legit is double knife hands to the arms of someone coming to grab your shoulders.

[Red J]

Another technique that I like is a roundhouse punch defense where you do a knife hand to the bicep/upper arm and one to the opposite collar bone (or substitute this with a tiger's mouth to the throat). You step through and put in a leg sweep.