[Zhan Zhuang] Shoulders and arms Tense up!

[Night-Dragon]

It's 2-3 days that praticing zhan zhuang I can't relax shoulders.

 

After 15 minutes I feel my arms and shoulder going to tense up, and I am no more able to relax them. So I restart focusing embracing the sphere but nothing change!! why?

 

what should I do?

 

Oss!

[Ali]

So check out the stance you hold first.

 

How to relax seems to be difficult to

 

explain. But I would say try the easier stance first.

 

I do Yi quan and the first stance I hold is to have

 

finger pointing the ground. The stance do not

 

have too much burden to shoulder and arm.

 

Of course, some imagin may add in your mind.

 

Ask your master better.

[David]

Maybe 15 minutes of that position is too long for you. Tension comes as breaking-point approaches when you haven't got the hang of relaxation.

 

Try not to *think* that you're holding your arms up; instead imagine that they're lightly resting on big balls or floating on water. That kind of thing...

 

Rgds,

 

David

[KarateKid7]

Sorry to be the rookie in this post but is Zhan Zhuang simply holding a stance for a certain amount of time or does it refer to a specific stance within a specific style...I noticed Night Dragon trains in shotokan karate and ju jutsu and i thought that Zhan Zhuang evolved from chinese martial arts. I am interested and want to implement Zhan Zhuang into my karate training - is this possible without proffesional advice/training? Any tips would be much appreciated.

[David]

It is "standing like a tree" or "standing on post" chi gung, using particular hand positions. You could learn it from the web or book.

[KarateKid7]

Chi gung...i.e qui gong...i see...thanks

[KarateKid7]

What are the benefits of this type of triaining?

 

Thanks

[Night-Dragon]

It is "standing like a tree" or "standing on post" chi gung, using particular hand positions. You could learn it from the web or book.

 

And so I did.

 

I searched on the web, I have 2-3 books about but in the end you find always the same words, the same methods, probably different experiens and sensations. It is your how aknowledge when praticing it.

 

I noticed that someday I stay in this position for 30 minutes having not too much problems, and sometimes stay ther efor 15 minutes is very hard. Donnow why...

[dtstiachi]

when you start to tense up from doing Zhan Zhuang training, relax. Start by relaxing your body from the feet up. Focus your mind on relaxing each body part and over time you will begin to feel your shoulders relax as well. I practice Zhan Zhuang for an hour every day and I can attest to the fact that you tense up. Try to calm your mind so you won't think about the discomfort. Go over your shenfa (torso methods) ankles released, knees over the toes, pareneum pulled up, back straight, shoulders back, headtop suspended, tongue on roof of mouth, headtop level. Review these torso methods and make sure they are in place while you are practicing Zhan Zhuang and this will also help get your mind off of the burning in your shoulders.

[cathal]

Perhaps some "no mind" meditation before you begin?