krunchyfrogg Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 At my dojo's Shiai (rank ceremony, held 2x a year) yesterday, there were a few "guest Senseis" there to watch. Now, the kids and the adults Shiai's are held seperately, the kids' being 2 hours earlier. During the kids Shiai, this "guest Sensei" was giving a motivational speach to the kids. I was just sitting in the audience observing, and waiting for my Shiai to begin. Anyway, he said to the kids, A Black Belt is a White Belt who didn't quit." Now, I understand his point. Don't give up, keep at it, ect.. But is what he said true? Can anybody, who is a healthy individual, and puts in the time and effort earn a black belt? And I'm not talking about a BB from some McDojo (Tiger Schulman's is the local McDojo), I'm talking about a real, hard earned ranking. "A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives."-- Jackie Robinson"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."-- Edmund Burke
isshinryu5toforever Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 With enough dedication and training, anyone can become a black belt. Being a black belt is about perfecting the basics. Anyone can do that. The path can simply be more difficult for some than for others. He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened.- Tao Te Ching"Move as swift as a wind, stay as silent as forest, attack as fierce as fire, undefeatable defense like a mountain."- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
CapitalKarate Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Yes, it is possible for anyone to earn a black belt. The problem is a lot of people give up if it's too hard. Anyone can get to a 7-8th dan (or w/e rank it is in every other style), the only problem is whether you can get disciplined enough to make it that far. Joshua Brehm-When you're not practicing remember this; someone, somewhere, is practicing, and when you meet them, they will beat you.
vertigo Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 I also agree with the above opinions. With hard enough work, anyone can reach their goals. "Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go." - T. S. Eliot
AngryMatt Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Well I think it matters a LITTLE on what art you've selected. But not much. I wasn't able to do as much as a somersault before I started jjj. Just three months later I could hit four different forward/side rolls and two types of back rolls. Of course, that goes along with all the other techniques. I'm about as unflexible as they come and I'm 6'2" 230lbs. Pretty big guy. And yet I can do it just as well as the smaller guys. So yeah, if you master the basics and build your skills properly you can become a black belt with enough time. How much time? Depends on the art and requirements. "In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness."-The Book of the Void (A Book of Five Rings)"Men don't start fights, but they do finish them."
ninjanurse Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Yes, anyone. "A Black Belt is only the beginning."Heidi-A student of the artsTae Kwon Do,Shotokan,Ju Jitsu,Modern Arnishttp://the100info.tumblr.com/
tommarker Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Cho Dan is just an intermediate beginner, and not the end-all be all. It's just a matter of having practiced enough to be prepared for learning more. I'm no longer posting here. Adios.
vertigo Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 ^ Sounds like what my sensei has told us regarding black belt levels.. "Once you hit shodan, congratulations! You're ready to learn now" "Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go." - T. S. Eliot
Shorinryu Sensei Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 ^ Sounds like what my sensei has told us regarding black belt levels.. "Once you hit shodan, congratulations! You're ready to learn now" That's pretty much what I tell my people..."OK, you're a black belt/shodan now....time to get SERIOUS!" My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!"
G95champ Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 NO question true learing starts at Shodan. They way I explain Dan's to our students is: 1st means you understand the basics 2nd means you can teach 3rd your a bad man lol 4th you start to develope other styles into ours but study of kata 5th your a master anything higher most of us cant reach unless you want to get political. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
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