CombatHapkido Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 I took Shotokan for almost 3 years. In the style I took we learned... Front Rising Front Thrusting Round House Back Side Thrusting Side Rising Hook Inside Crescent Outside Crescent and the spins Spinning Back Spinning Hook Now someone just told me that Shotokan doesn't have all these kicks and that my teacher added kicks from other styles... So my question is how many kicks is Shotokan supposed to have?
gojoinstructor Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Traditional Shotokan styles teach mainly linear movements. Meaning, anything that goes out and comes back such as a side thrust, back kick, front kick or a stomp. Arced kicks, such as Round houses, hooks and most crescents are an addition from taekwondo or Gojo Ryu (even gojo ryu doesn't teach all these kicks in a traditional sense) The good thing is that your instructor is not limiting you in your techniques. I teach Shotokan and when training for a traditional competition, I tell my students to stay with the basics (jab, reverse punch, front kick, side thrust, etc..)In class I teach everything though, Ax, scissor, and everything you mentioned.
Killer Miller Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Traditional: Side thrust. Side snap. Front snap. Front thrust - not really taught that much because it is a dangerous kick to use. Back Kick. Spinning back - but not the same spinning back that most are use to seeing. Inside and outside round house. That's pretty much it... - Killer - Mizu No KokoroShodan - Nishiyama SenseiTable Tennis: http://www.jmblades.com/Auto Weblog: http://appliedauto.mypunbb.com/Auto Forum: http://appauto.wordpress.com/
cathal Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Front Rising Front Thrusting Round House Back Side Thrusting Side Rising Hook Inside Crescent Outside Crescent and the spins Spinning Back Spinning Hook We do these as well, but mostly because they are in our katas, and kihon, for the exception of the spinning hook. .The best victory is when the opponent surrendersof its own accord before there are any actualhostilities...It is best to win without fighting.- Sun-tzu
AnonymousOne Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Front thrust Front snap Side thrust Side snap Back thrust Back snap Back thrust Roundhouse kick Crescent kick Downward heel thrust Jumping double front kick Jumping side kick Jumping front kick Jumping round house kick Reverse round house kick Reverse jumping round house kick Returning wave kick Several forms of foot sweeps (the are kicks) Rotating Jumping crescent kick (used as a block) * Note some of these are found in advanced Kata that some may not be aware of 7th Dan ChidokaiA true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing
Gyte Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 In our Shotokan dojo the following kicks are taught: mae geri keage (front snap kick) mae geri kekomi (front thrust kick) yoko geri keage (side snap kick) yoko geri kekomi (side thrust kick) mawashi geri (roundhouse kick) ura mawashi geri (reverse roundhouse kick) ushiro geri (back kick) ushiro ura mawashi geri (backspinning reverse roundhouse kick) kizami geri (cresent kick) ushiro kizami geri (back cresent kick) fumikomi (side stomp kick) fumikiri (back stomp kick) tobi mae geri (jumping font kick) tobi yoko geri (jumping side kick) randem tobi mae geri (jumping double font kick) "Practising karate means a lifetime of hard work."~Gichin Funakoshi
ZakariRu Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 In the JKA style of shotokan there are; Front snap Side snap Round kick (knee in high chamber) Back kick. Side thrust. Only ones you will ever see on a traditional shotokan rank test kihon. In kata there is one Front thrust kick, nidan-geri (jump front) and a few outside-in cresent kicks. There is also the Tekki kick. (returning wave) There are alot of other kicks like cutting kicks (round kick that comes up at an angle like a front kick that turns READ:tkd turning kick hook kicks, spinning hooks etc.) Those are not part of the Shotokan testing syllabus for any org. Unsu does have a front thrust kick, but i do not think i have ever seen that kick drilled specifically in the US or Japan people who do Unsu just do it in the kata.
G95champ Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Well Shotokan is not differant than any style when it comes to what moves we use. Bottom line we use or can use any kick the human body will let us do. However with that said there are certin kicks we favor and use more often. Front Snap Side Snap and Side Thrust Roundhouse Back Spinning Back Thats the meat now we thorw cresants, axe, doubles, sweeping, scissors, jumping, hooks, stomps, knees, etc but we like the KISS idea. Keep It Simple Stupid. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
vertigo Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Wow.. I had no clue we had this many kicks .. The only ones I had been aware of were the ones that G95 listed above... and I can hardly get these down well (kicks are not really my thing), so I'll just stick to those at the moment (and many more moments to follow ). Although I wouldn't doubt it for a second that some of the other kicks listed show up later in limited circumstances. "Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go." - T. S. Eliot
jarrettmeyer Posted February 28, 2005 Posted February 28, 2005 Traditional Shotokan styles teach mainly linear movements. Meaning, anything that goes out and comes back such as a side thrust, back kick, front kick or a stomp. Arced kicks, such as Round houses, hooks and most crescents are an addition from taekwondo or Gojo Ryu (even gojo ryu doesn't teach all these kicks in a traditional sense) This isn't the first time that I've read that roundhouse is not a true Okinawan kick. It doesn't appear in any of our kata. But, everything I've seen tells me that as far as simplicity vs. effectiveness, mawashi geri is as good as it gets. Also, it was the first kick that I ever learned. Can someone please tell me where this style kick originated? How/why do some styles decide to incorporate some techniques and not others? Jarrett Meyer"The only source of knowledge is experience."-- Albert Einstein
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