kotegashiNeo Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 Just wondering if how many of you would train and for how long if you never recieved a higher rank than you are now. You would still learn all the kata and different bunkai but never again would you recieve a grade higher than the one your are at now. Just wondering how important grading is to people Kisshu fushin oni te hotoke kokoro
vertigo Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 Hmm... well, if I was still learning everything I would normally and continue improving? Psh.. at that point, I wouldn't mind being an 8th kyu for life.. I wouldn't care - as long as I was still learning and getting better. A black belt (for example) is not just putting on a belt, it's a level of skill... so what difference does it make if you just take away the belt? edit: I do not mind belts though, as contradictory as that is. It's nice to have a tangible level to shoot for. i.e.- in golf, it'd be tough to know how good you were if you never kept score.. as I type this, I am almost positive there will be those who disagree with my whole 'its nice to have tangible levels' idea... oh well, that's the way it is... this is just my opinion "Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go." - T. S. Eliot
cross Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 Rank isnt something im worried about, its just another outcome in training.
CuriousCat Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 the grade i am now was a huge goal for me, it means i am beginning to understand and internalise. if i never grade again, i wouldn't mind. i might not anyway. for me, its more about learning new katas and understanding further. Maybe Love Was The Thing Holding Me Back From All, Maybe I'm Just The Thing To Break My Own Fall
senna_trem Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 Ideally forever, but I do think I'd take more breaks because I'd get pretty frustrated for no visible recognition for my work. I'd still go though, I heart my dojo. "I think therefore I am" Rene Descartes
Kempohands Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 If I would still learn everything, just without getting a new belt, I'd be happy training for the rest of my life. The belt is only a tangible goal to give people more of a sense of accomplishment (and to let instructors know at quick glance a student's reletive level of knowledge). However, I'd have to agree with Vertigo in that while I wouldn't care if I never advanced in rank again, I still think the rank system is good. I believe it's a good thing to have something tangible to shoot for, just don't get fixated by it. "To win a fight without fighting, that is the true goal of a martial artist." -Grandmaster Nick Cerio
Killer Miller Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 Testing is just what the word means - to test... If you pass your test, you get a higher grade as your report card. You fail the test, you do not get a higher grade on your report card. Grades are part of the tradition and part of learning the art. Now having all of the colors of belts, I feel differently about that which are way OVERKILL - but a pass/fail grade is good... One whom would say that testing or getting a higher grade is not important is not one I would ever train with or suggest anyone to train with. - Killer - Mizu No KokoroShodan - Nishiyama SenseiTable Tennis: http://www.jmblades.com/Auto Weblog: http://appliedauto.mypunbb.com/Auto Forum: http://appauto.wordpress.com/
Kara Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 When i started in karate, i didn't go for belts, once i went i realize that it is a major part of the training...i really dont' care about my belt colour as long as i'm learning and training hard. The only reason i would care about belt level in competitions, which as for the moment i dont' plan on doing. i would want competetors or the same skills. KBear"lick your wounds, anxious for the next ones"
cross Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 but a pass/fail grade is good... One whom would say that testing or getting a higher grade is not important is not one I would ever train with or suggest anyone to train with. Dont you think its possible to still be tested without the need for a increase in rank afterwards?
pineapple Posted February 27, 2005 Posted February 27, 2005 Rank is important in one aspect. If you want to someday have your own school, it is important to have rank because as unfortunate as it is, the general public wnat to train with someone with a high rank. What works works
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