battousai16 Posted February 23, 2005 Posted February 23, 2005 forgive me, i had no idea where to put capoeira-related stuff. i figured if it should go somewhere else, here would be as good a starting point as any. so i started capoeira today (my god, i'm worse at that than i am at wing chun!) and couldn't help but notice that in jinga (sp?), you always leave a rib cage open. and during esquiva (sp?), you're still leaving a rib cage open. are those just not targets in capoeira? do y'all not worry about 'em? is there a defense i'm not seeing? just curious is all. "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
Mr. Mike Posted February 23, 2005 Posted February 23, 2005 man, you're ditting pretty out where you are...we only have my school and TKD here. argh. I have to come and pay a visit sometime to see some of the styles your area offers...maybe setup some seminars...do you think your instructors would be interested in doing any? When a man's fortunate time comes, he meets a good friend;When a man has lost his luck, he meets a beautiful woman.-anonymous
battousai16 Posted February 23, 2005 Author Posted February 23, 2005 to tell you the truth, i doubt it. you're actually not allowed to cross train in HRD, and capoeiristas mostly seem concerned with capoeira. wing chun with wing chun. still, madison isn't the worst vacation spot in the world. always a pleasure to see your capital, if nothing else "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
isshinryu5toforever Posted February 23, 2005 Posted February 23, 2005 Madison is a lovely place, too bad I live about 4 1/2 hours northwest of there. I have a friend in Waunakee (or something like that) though just out on Highway M. Anyways, back to the post. Capoiera was turned into a sort of dance so the techniques could be hidden. I'm not claiming to be an expert, or that this is even necessarily the correct answer, just from what I've seen this could be the reason for leaving ribs exposed, etc. And it seems with the athletic kicks and swining movements, that is may be more of an offensive martial art. He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened.- Tao Te Ching"Move as swift as a wind, stay as silent as forest, attack as fierce as fire, undefeatable defense like a mountain."- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
ovine king Posted February 23, 2005 Posted February 23, 2005 whoa..... boyo, give it more time will ya.... you'e only just begun to get your jinga down, right? chances are you're still 'moving like a white man'. once you get into it more and learn more it will begin to make sense...... hey, is it regionale or angola? earth is the asylum of the universe where the inmates have taken over.don't ask stupid questions and you won't get stupid answers.
SevenStar Posted February 23, 2005 Posted February 23, 2005 during the jinga, one hadn guards the face - the other hand is used to scoop kicks as it moves across your body. you do seem to be unprotected after the hand has come across your body, but perhaps that depends on how fast you can jinga...
ovine king Posted February 23, 2005 Posted February 23, 2005 well, there's also the point he's probably still learning the pattern and rhythm of it. he's yet to apply his own body to it.... if you get what i mean. earth is the asylum of the universe where the inmates have taken over.don't ask stupid questions and you won't get stupid answers.
SevenStar Posted February 23, 2005 Posted February 23, 2005 to tell you the truth, i doubt it. you're actually not allowed to cross train in HRD, and capoeiristas mostly seem concerned with capoeira. why won't they allow you to cross train? As far as capoeira goes, the instructor here is also a purple belt in bjj...
battousai16 Posted February 24, 2005 Author Posted February 24, 2005 wait, you're at new york universty 4 1/2 hours northwest of madison? one of us has messed up geographies but yeah, waunakee is right by me. that said, indeed, i'm moving like the very very white man that i am. still, in observing the others around me, they go almost out of their ways to leave their rib cages open. for instance, esquiva (sp?), when they put the arm that my first thought would be to guard the ribs, behind them. the scooping arm for jinga makes more sense. i realize i've had a mere 2 hours of capoeira under my belt, i was just curious is all. i'm very excited about it, it's been on my mind since i left. and um, it's omulu, or something to that end. i'm not sure if that falls under one of those categories... and it's not capoeira that dosen't allow you to cross train, it's HRD. i think it's a korean nationalist thing, and, because it's part of an academy, a scheme to get more money. i think the justification for it is that if you have the time to be training in other styles, you should be using it to polish your HRD. as for capoeira, it's in a gym where you can also learn judo and bjj, and from the looks of it, boxing is coming soon, and if you pay by the month, you can train in all of them at no extra charge, thus encouraging you to cross train... though from the looks of it, people seem to stick to their own things. if i drop HRD, i'll probably pick up one or two of the other styles. "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
krzychicano Posted February 24, 2005 Posted February 24, 2005 capoiera and ribs? Is that a new menu at tony romas? What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others. - Confucius
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