Flank Posted February 21, 2005 Posted February 21, 2005 Hello, I am new here, but I must say, from what I've seen, the people here seem very welcoming and nice. I have a question... Lately at school I've been putting up with a lot of bullying (both physically and mentally). I've been in situations where I might be sitting at a table eating my lunch and this bully would come up, take my lunch box and hold it up high so I can't reach it or hold it so I would have to try and wrestle it out of his hands. I've thought this through and there's no way I can possibly use strength to get my lunch box (or if in the former situation, jump high enough to grap it [i am 5' 4" after all]). Physically I am no match. However I've seen other students (when fooling around) use certain tactics (alternatives to bruteforce strength) that I wouldn't so much call "Pressure Points" but points on which when pressure is applied, it tickles so much to the point the opponent flinches. My sister does it to her friends and me so I know it works well. Examples would include: poking the left or right side of your torso, sqeezing or applying pressure to your thigh (when sitting). These don't work if you're doing them to yourself but do if it's to someone else (especially if it's unexpected). I would be very interested to know if there are more of these points and how they are best applied to give maximum effectiveness (as I've tried the two above, often without success). I am not looking for anything that requires extensive training (like Martial Arts, etc...), but I am desperate to learn some sort of method to subdue these bullies. It would be good if there were serveral of these "funny points" so I can vary. Easily applied pressure points would be good too (however I've found pressure points to be too difficult to use sucessfully). If I am at the wrong place a link or directions would be most helpful. Thank you for reading my long post and as I am very inexperienced in this area any information would be greatly appreciated Flank P.S I am very sorry if I am not supposed to post here, but I am very desperate for help.
GhostlySykanRyu Posted February 21, 2005 Posted February 21, 2005 Just curious, how old are you exactly? I wouldn't say that something as trivial as some one teasing you with with a lunchbox is means for physical confrontation, which can only lead to getting yourself in trouble. I'd say your best bet is to simply talk it out with the "agressor". Now if he physically attacks you, that is another matter altogether... "I am not looking for anything that requires extensive training (like Martial Arts, etc...), but I am desperate to learn some sort of method to subdue these bullies." Hate to break it to you, but if you're not willing to train, you're not going to get much out of any knowledge you may have. Pressure points, and any technique for that matter, is not effective unless you're willing to put it to use in training. Work hard and reap the rewards...theres no such thing as a shortcut to self defense. Anyway, I'm sure we can offer advice nonetheless, but please give us more information. Your age? How serious is the situation getting? How aggressive is the person getting? Have authorities (such as teachers or parents) been notified of the situation? To condemn the art of another is to condemn your own as well. We all have the same origin.
Cmon Posted February 21, 2005 Posted February 21, 2005 Just a quick thing, i think Jeet Kune Do is right you can't learn these things overnight. If you where to just ignore the "bully" when he picks your lunch box up would he become more agressive or is he not the sort who would need a reaction.
krzychicano Posted February 21, 2005 Posted February 21, 2005 go with Jeet! What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others. - Confucius
Flank Posted February 22, 2005 Author Posted February 22, 2005 Thank you for your quick response. To give a bit of history on the matter, yes in fact I have told my parents and teachers, however to tell you the truth, I am now heading to university (it starts in a week), and this particular gentleman who has harrased me since I was 15 years old (I am 18 now) will be there. Last year I had reported him for harrassment, the teachers and my parents were both supportive, neaturalizing the situation asap. However I was in year 12 (last year of high school) and when other students heard that I reported him, many withdrew from me, making the situation further depressing. Now that I am entering uni, I don't want the situation to replicate itself. I know he will act like he did back in highschool because: 1) The same teachers who subdued him last year are no longer in authority (and besides, near the end of the year he defied teachers and began harrassing me again). 2) He has never mentally matured, and still likes to push me around. I have always been the prime target particularly because I reported him and he knows that his antics really do annoy me, so even if I was just to ignore him, he'd keep doing it till I crack. Put simply, I want university to be a fresh start, no longer having bullying of any type interfere with my studies. The saddest problem with this is the fact that he knows how I deal with bullying (not sticking up for myself) would like to make life miserable for me so he can get a few laughs... Flank Edit: I forgot to mention, the taking of the lunch box is not the only bullying, another example would be I am waiting in line outside a classroom, he'll comment that I am rich (it may seem non-threatening at all but it has a long history) then together with another mate will physically push me on the shoulders, pushing me back back back. Eventually the other boy (who is just joking around will stop and walk off) but the particular bully in question will continue till class begins. Even when class starts he'll point at me and pass comments about me.
1kickKO Posted February 22, 2005 Posted February 22, 2005 well, you'd be surprised how far a simple "pinch" on the inner thighs can go if you're sitting down and he takes your lunchbox. If he hasn't grown fully matured yet..then he's just going to be the same way. I think the best thing for you to do would be to find a martial arts club at your university, and learn some self-defense...you know, just as a measure of getting around it in case it ever does get phsyical, because to me pushing is physical, and you never know how much it will just escalate. Unless your Univ. is a big place and you can avoid him, the only other option you have is standing up to him. but if not, then take the martial arts man! It will teach you many things
ovine king Posted February 22, 2005 Posted February 22, 2005 the thing that i'm not keen on is that i get the idea that you are after something that can allow you to 'get even' as it were..... earth is the asylum of the universe where the inmates have taken over.don't ask stupid questions and you won't get stupid answers.
Skeptic 2004 Posted February 22, 2005 Posted February 22, 2005 (edited) I've not a whole lot more to add. There's no such thing as "self defense in two easy steps." I would also add that playing around with pressure points is actually very dangerous if you don't know what you're doing. The last thing you want to do is hospitalize this dude (he's a jerk...but come on, he's not that much of a jerk...is he?). You'd have to commit yourself to a fighting system to learn these things and how to use them properly. Have you ever considered being nice to the guy? I'm sure you've heard of killing people with kindness. He'll eventually get sick of you being nice to him and leave you alone, or he'll actually realize what an immature idiot he's been and will leave you alone...God forbid he apologize. Don't mistake kindness for weakness; it takes more strength to extend a hand to help than it does to pull it back and punch. I'm not saying be spineless; stand up for yourself and don't let him take advantage of you (that doesn't necessarily mean a physical confrontation by the way...). But the nicer you are to him, the more it reflects on his poor conduct. While people may have been too immature to notice in high school, people will see it in college. Edited February 22, 2005 by Skeptic 2004 Do you know who Chosin Chibana is...?The Chibana Project:http://chibanaproject.blogspot.com
Flank Posted February 22, 2005 Author Posted February 22, 2005 You need to let the proper people know what's going on (teachers, parents, etc.) and get them to stop it.. Frankly I am not too egaer on reporting him to the authorities (this is university after-all and the administration would tell me to handle it myself). On in all he would do what he did in highschool and let all his friends at uni (my friends) know I reported him, thus producing a similar situation to highschool. (everyone withdrawing from me)Okay....so this was a little long...sorry but it's a sensitive subject for me . It's nice to know I am not alone, how old are you now? Flank P.S Do you know what a leopard's paw is? Someone told me it's an effective formation for your hand to take when punching people.
1kickKO Posted February 22, 2005 Posted February 22, 2005 It's when you bend your knuckles at the middle joint and hit with that knuckle. Hang on and I'll go get a picture of it.
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