Gracie 'jitsu

[Rank7]

thanks gumbi

[dingyuan]

BJJ is a great martial art but too bad most who study it show no respect for other martial artist.

[KUNTA KINTE]

This is a post from the Gracie Fighter forums that kinda explains:

 

I agree, sport Jiu Jitsu and submission grappling is different from the NHB that the Gracie's were doing in Brazil 20 years ago. It happens to every martial art that starts getting into 'sport' mode. I had a bit of a wake up call this weekend. I have a monster of a brother in law, 5'10", about 220, built like a pit bull with a huge head and neck, massive arms, etc. We started scrapping for fun, and he got out of three guillotine chokes by basically trying to break my fingers by bending them backward. I'm not used to that, because it is against the rules in sport BJJ, but it works damn good in the street. My Jiu Jitsu still helped me technically win, because it helped me stay safe while I wore his * out, but there are lots of things that sport BJJ doesn't take into account. And I also agree that one punch could change everything. But in general ground fighters win against strikers, and BJJ is still the best MA for the street. The only time I wouldn't want to use it is in a multiple attacker situation. There are so many examples of groundfighters taking out strikers it is too hard to count, but the most recent would have to be Chris Leben getting taken out last night on Ultimate Fighter, and then saying that groundfighting was weak! If the ref hadn't have stood them up, or had there not been a time limit

[Treebranch]

Kunta did you say BJJ is the best MA for the street? How? It's an excellent if not the best groundfighting system out there, but you need to be well rounded for the street. It also depends what street you are talking about.

[Gumbi]

Kunta did you say BJJ is the best MA for the street? How? It's an excellent if not the best groundfighting system out there, but you need to be well rounded for the street. It also depends what street you are talking about.

 

You dont need to be well rounded for the street (though it certainly does help).

 

The first UFC's were probably the closest thing to an actual street fight that you could simulate- overly aggressive opponents, some trained in martial arts, other simply harden bar room brawlers.

 

Clinching is almost inevitable in any fight, and unless you're fighting someone who's better in the clinch than you are (and wants to use it to STAY on his feet) chances are high you can take it to the ground.

[Treebranch]

Well what if you are in a bar? What if you can't go to the ground for what ever reason? What if there is more than one person? What if you person may or may not have a weapon? What if you person is huge and powerful? I don't think you can say one MA is the best for the street, because the street can be anywhere. The street doesn't mean a back yard party fight.

[KUNTA KINTE]

Kunta did you say BJJ is the best MA for the street? How? It's an excellent if not the best groundfighting system out there, but you need to be well rounded for the street. It also depends what street you are talking about.

I got that from the Graciefighter.com forums i didnt say that some other person did.

[Gumbi]

Well what if you are in a bar?

 

I work as a bouncer in a bar- its never presented a problem with BJJ

 

 

What if you can't go to the ground for what ever reason?

 

BJJ involves more than just ground fighting- clinch fighting is part of grappling/BJJ. While we dont exactly look like Muay Thai guys, we know how to dominate a clinch. This means we can set up throws and slams and send our opponent crashing to the ground, while we remain standing. If one cant do that, he at the very least can dominate a clinch so as not to get hit.

What if there is more than one person?

 

See the above explaination. BJJ teaches you how to get up properly should you get thrown to the ground (as opposed to getting punted in the face Gerard Gordeau vs Telia Telu style). Your training will help you regain your feet, and when on your feet will help you to STAY standing, certainly much better than any striking art would. In this case, a nice striking and grappling combo of skills would be most desirable and in my eyes most efficient (though still being inefficient).

What if you person may or may not have a weapon?

 

Then we're not talking unarmed combat here are we? There are weapon defences shown in BJJ (as well as numerous other arts) but I find them to be rather silly (regardless of what art you practice).

 

Besides in the event someone DOES have a weapon, in order to disarm them you HAVE to engage in some sort of grappling.

What if you person is huge and powerful?

 

That is exactly what made BJJ so popular in the first place- the ability to fight and defeat an opponent thats faster, stronger, and bigger than you are and its been quite successfull at it.

 

 

I don't think you can say one MA is the best for the street, because the street can be anywhere. The street doesn't mean a back yard party fight.

 

You can say which styles have had the most success. If you're a 220lb smashing machine, then you can do just fine with about any style (or even no style at all). You always hold an advantage if you're larger than your opponent. Evidence shows however against larger more aggressive opponents its almost inevitable that they will grab you at one point or another during the fight with high chances of it going to the ground.

 

A street fight is a street fight- theres going to be ground wherever you're fighting (unless you're tossed overboard on a cruise ship). Fights have a habit of being very repititive in nature.