Switching Styles Before Mastery...(TKD vs Ninjitsu...kinda)

[Eric-TKD]

Hey guys, it's been a while since my last post here, but I've got a question...if this isn't the right forum I hope a mod will move it. >_>

 

I've been taking ITF Tae Kwon-Do for over three years now, however I was not in a mad dash to read my first dan, so currently I am a blue belt. However, I consider myself to be a pretty good blue belt! I make it a point to take time and actually KNOW the techniques, as well as being able to physically do them correctly. I've seen many blackbelts (even at my own dojang) who don't appear to be very proficient (the instructors are amazing though). Anyway, before I drag on too much lemme try to get to the point >_<:

 

My dojang is not a "McDojo," I don't think. However, over the course of my enrollment, the master has become increasingly concerned with business instead of the art, and I've known for a while that his prices are kind of steep.

 

Currently I pay $75 a month for an average of three classes a week, while belt testing is too much for me to even mention (I know it shouldn't even exist!). Now, I really love the classes, I think they are an amazing blend of physical conditioning and solid traditional techniques, as well as practical application. I truly feel I have learned a lot and my confidence is high. But all too often I find myself disenchanted by the dojang's overall attitude toward's getting more money, and lately the classes do not feel as progressive as they used to in the "old days". So I want to switch to a new school. Problem is I cannot even find another ITF dojang in my area, only WTF and ATA. I've looked into both of these and have no interest in trying them. I wanted to stay with ITF to continue towards "mastery," but now I don't think it is possible.

 

So that is my dilemma, and here is the best answer I have found yet (I think): http://www.ncquestcenter.com/ It's Ninjitsu, which I know is completely different, but out of all the dojangs/dojos I have looked into, it seems the most "hardcore" and hopefully it is physically challenging, which is important to me. Also, if anyone knows anything about these "Quest Center" ninjitsu establishments, whether they are quality or not, that would be great to know. I have my doubts but the background info on the site sounds pretty solid to me.

 

So any thoughts on my situation would be most welcome, I am definitely free to more advice, nothing is set in stone.

Edited February 21, 2005 by Eric-TKD

[Rank7]

If i am correct TKD can be a good style for distance ie. kicks and ninjutsu is more of a close up art so you will be more rounded. its definatly good to diversify.

[SevenStar]

as far as mastery goes - will you every really master your art? If so, how long will it take? waiting until mastery - which may never even happen - is not necessary. You should have a solid foundation, however.

[Eric-TKD]

I guess I meant the term mastery loosely, I realize that it's an unrealistic goal to completely master an art, but I really meant something along the lines of having at least learned all the hyungs and a sizeable portion of the sparring / self-defense techniques.

 

I'm not sure exactly how to put it in words, but by switching arts I feel guilty of disloyalty to the art, or something like that. I WANT to continue ITF TKD, but at this point my best option seems to be moving to a better dojo that teaches ninjitsu. Hope that makes sense.

 

Any ideas on how hard it is to transition from TKD to Ninjitsu? Also, does anyone know about this To Shin Do stuff?

[Rank7]

The transition is not only not difficult but its also fun as you learn other forms of combat.

[1kickKO]

Actually it will be very weird at first, because TKD focuses on mainly kicking techniques. Ninjitsu is a very different art within itself, featuring a few throws, locks, chokes, punches, and kicks..in my honest opinion though, I think you are right for switching, when an instructor becomes more involved in business than his art, then I do think you have every right to switch. Maybe you could take a sample class from each dojo/style until you find one you like. Many schools allow you to do this, and your gut will tell you what art you should take.

[Treebranch]

I recommend Budo Taijutsu and don't worry about mastering the art. Master your body first. That doesn't sound right, but you know what I mean, right?

[mikaveli]

I couldn't train if it cost $75 a month.

 

Surely your instructors expenses cannot be that high. At my club, the instructor just charges enough to cover hall and some equipment, so it end up at about $40 roughly.

[Eric-TKD]

Unfortunately it does cost that much, and the only reason I have continued all these years is because of the quality of the classes and instructors. They really are good at what they do. But I realize it is too much, and with the hiked testing fees, I'm now looking for a new place.

 

However, I don't think this Ninjitsu place is going to be cheaper...I've scheduled an appointment for friday to check it out, so I'll know then. I just wish someone could tell me more about this particular style of "Quest" Ninjitsu, as I am both intrigued and cautious.

[AngelaG]

Hmmm it's hard to say from looking at a website but some of the things on their rang alarm bells. BUT the only way to tell is to train with them.