TO HIT AND NOT TO GET HIT ? THIS IS MY QUESTION !

[SevenStar]

we think contact isn't made because contact is light. I've had points taken away in tournies for excessive contact. Also, the fact that you stop after a point is scored - it's not continuous.

[Sauzin]

In our school we teach as a primary principle to move off line. People often translate this to "don't get hit". And indeed it would be great if this happened to be the case. But if you go into a fight with the mentality of avoiding being hit as though your opponent would score a point if he hit you, then you are guaranteed to get hit, and likely go down. So I think the better principle to go by is "Protect yourself while putting yourself into a superior position." Getting hit is inconsequential, the real question is, are you in a superior position? Do you have control? Who's injury is going to allow them to go home? He might touch you with his fist or he might not. If your technique is good it won't matter. The important thing to remember is that it's not a game of tag.

[SevenStar]

exactly.

[brickman]

Our rule of thumb is hit them more than they hit you....and harder. Oh and preferably you hit them first....lol. Seriously though....it is a matter of being hit or being touched. When you know the difference, then you will understand the rule of thumb.

[vertigo]

DO NOT GET HIT, is our first ever major principle. I personally think it's a great principle

 

Agreed.

 

As far as I see it, if your opponent (for whatever reason) threw a full force punch and landed it (like the example from Ted T.).. odds are a counter is not even going to be possible.

 

I can see where others are coming from, in not getting too defensive. However, not getting hit should be a pretty high priority.

[AngelaG]

I think there can be a problem that if you never get hit and then in a street fight you suddenly do get hit that you will freeze up with the shock and unfamiliarity of the situation. However it is fine to learn to take a knock in the dojo, in a street fight you need to try and avoid all contact, because as vertigo stated, if they hit you first there is no telling whether you will be in a state to actually carry on defeding yourself. In the course of training there will be inevitably be times when you catch a knock or two, hopefully these will help to desensitise the shock of contact - but IMO to constantly train to take a hit to give one back is foolhardy and dangerous. Do we really want to put such a risky strategy into our muscle memory?

[GojuRyu Shawn]

As they say, the best punch is the one that is never thrown.

 

But as far as it comes to not geting hit... Our Sensei tells us never to get hit in joints, such as knees, wrists, elbows. Also never to get hit in the face. The drum technique as seen on Karate Kid 2 works quite well in a fightl

[SevenStar]

I think there can be a problem that if you never get hit and then in a street fight you suddenly do get hit that you will freeze up with the shock and unfamiliarity of the situation. However it is fine to learn to take a knock in the dojo, in a street fight you need to try and avoid all contact, because as vertigo stated, if they hit you first there is no telling whether you will be in a state to actually carry on defeding yourself. In the course of training there will be inevitably be times when you catch a knock or two, hopefully these will help to desensitise the shock of contact - but IMO to constantly train to take a hit to give one back is foolhardy and dangerous. Do we really want to put such a risky strategy into our muscle memory?

 

not give and take - give and keep giving. But when you do that, you will likely get hit. you need to be comfortable with that - accempt that it may happen. I think this is one of the benefits of contact sparring.

[AngelaG]

With all the will in the world contact sparring is still nothing like a real street fight.

[Musse]

True, but it's one level closer to the real thing than point sparring.

 

- Musse