ovine king Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 quite simply, does it matter what it is you are doing/training in, if you're enjoying it? earth is the asylum of the universe where the inmates have taken over.don't ask stupid questions and you won't get stupid answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorin Ryuu Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 If you are training for self-defense, it does matter. If that really isn't your main goal, it doesn't matter. For example, I wouldn't criticize you for playing basketball just because it isn't self-defense oriented (although I've seen some games that would make you think otherwise)... A problem arises when you are taking something less than practical for self-defense with the express purpose of self-defense. Is it my duty to warn these people what they do may be potentially dangerous and change their minds? Not really. I can advise them, but if they say "no", then there's not much I can do. It's their choice, after all. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 If you are training for self-defense, it does matter. If that really isn't your main goal, it doesn't matter. For example, I wouldn't criticize you for playing basketball just because it isn't self-defense oriented (although I've seen some games that would make you think otherwise)... A problem arises when you are taking something less than practical for self-defense with the express purpose of self-defense. Is it my duty to warn these people what they do may be potentially dangerous and change their minds? Not really. I can advise them, but if they say "no", then there's not much I can do. It's their choice, after all. Absolutly, 100% correct! If you're taking an art simply for the enjoyment..then it makes no difference what you take as long as you enjoy it. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souldburned Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I agree completely with the last posters, I mean, I´m doing karate not because of self defence, even thought that is an advantage. I only do karate cause I really love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzychicano Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 I take MA cause I love it. I dont know if I would love it as much if it wasn't Kuk Sool Won. What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others. - Confucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiji fajin Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 I disagree. What if you love it, yet the m.a. is bad on your knees? Sets you at a much higher risk for back injury? What if it instills a confidence in you but what it shows does not "work," and in the end that confidence gets you in trouble? There are a million reasons why you should not take something just b/c you enjoy it. Fetch Daddy's blue fright wig! I must be handsome when I unleash my rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorin Ryuu Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Well of course you have to apply the common sense test to things you do. I'm sure your Taiji background is coming into play here, which really stresses the avoidance of injurious or conflicting things. But that's pretty much common sense, isn't it. And slightly related but not relating directly to martial arts, why do people eat junk food? They certainly like it, and they know it isn't good for them, but they do it anyway. I choose not to, but that's my choice. Of course there are many things people do because they like, even it if isn't necessarily good for them. Back on topic, I think if a martial art can't be done your whole life, there's something wrong with it. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovine king Posted February 13, 2005 Author Share Posted February 13, 2005 a few more questions to add to the fire.... (the opening was deliberately left ambiguous) the question of self defence. what if the school teaches something has been known to be effective in self defence situations but the teaching in this case of is not exactly up to scratch? i mean, if the material is there and they are doing it just with lack of conviction in delivery. what if the extra x% needed to make the training realistic would make the class not fun? is it worth doing something you don't enjoy because it means better self defence? earth is the asylum of the universe where the inmates have taken over.don't ask stupid questions and you won't get stupid answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traz Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 is it worth doing something you don't enjoy because it means better self defence? You're going to get a variety of responses. It's all up to personal opinion and priority. Some people are very concerned with self-defense, and thus will tell you that yes, it is wroth it do to something you don't enjoy, because in the end, it will help them reach their goal of best defending themselves. Some peole train more leisurely, for fitness, fun, what have you. They may answer that no, it is not worth it...because self-defense isn't their top priority. In the end, there is no real answer...its up to the individual. I like the basketball analogy ;p Like a midget at a urinal, I'm always on my toes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiji fajin Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Yes, that is from my taiji background . However, its less common sense than people realize. I've seen so many people leave with seriously hurt joints b/c they went to hard on joint locks, or have to stop martial arts b/c their knees were too damaged from all the low stances and incorrect landings after a jump kick. It doesn't have to hurt right away to be bad for you. Of course, while I tried to avoid injury like anyone else with half a brain, I did crank on joints, do lots of low stances for long periods of time, "worked through" pain when I really wanted to grapple, etc. Thankfully I am much calmer and more patient now, enjoying the journey and happy in knowing I'm improving myself. I don't need to prove how good I am to myself anymore. Yeah, I'm glad I found my current teacher. Fetch Daddy's blue fright wig! I must be handsome when I unleash my rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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