Hook kick

[ZakariRu]

Yeh, hook kick slow... whatever.

 

No other kick has the flexability in range, speed or power like a hook kick.

 

I can hit people with mine hip to hip or from 2 yards away front foot to fron foot.

 

Internationally the only kick you seen thrown jodan (head level) are ura-mawashi-geri (hook kick, reverse round if you like) and the very very rare round kick.

 

I score a hook kick just about everytime i fight, most of the speed comes from the foot work. (throw it off the lead leg.)

 

Dont ever use the heel.

 

The ball of the foot gives you an extra 4 inches of range,and & forces your sciatic nerve to relax.

 

that helps with speed.

 

The biggest thing for a hook kick is to practice with round kicks and side thrust kicks. You can throw it by swinging your leg up to the side of your target and bending it at the knee. Or you can throw it like a side-thrust kick a foot or so to the side of your target and snap back.

 

The thrust kick variation requires much more flexability. Is a little bit faster. This is how some of the pheonimal WKF Europeans throw it.

 

C. Pinna throws this one.

 

The swing version comes up below the sight line ,so its easier to sneak in sometimes. D. Benitello of italy Throws it this way.

 

JKD's hook kick is not a round kick.

 

JKD's hook kick is a tae kwon do hook kick where you snap all the way through the target.

[isshinryu5toforever]

Are you sure about that? We have people on our TKD team who "slide" their round kick. It's kind of like Johnny Cage's Shadow kick, where they slide along the ground as they throw the technique. The hook kick, or kake geri, can be a great technique. Having the greatest range of any kick though, I'm not sure of that.

[ZakariRu]

yeh thats fairly basic lead leg kicking foot work. you should always slide when your kicking. Standing in place is a bad thing.

 

you use the momentum of popping your hip to start the kick and skid a little bit, my old dojo we used to do drills where you would put your supporting leg on a piece of paper and try and slide it with you.

 

i get about 1-2 feet of slide.

 

Of the two ways to throw it I mentioned, the thrust kick gives you the most "Slide"

 

The round kick has the same long range as the hook kick.

 

But if your in punching range you cant always throw a lead leg round kick or backleg for that matter.

 

But like i said before you can throw a hook kick to the head or back of the head if your grappling or standing hip to hip. Sometimes in matches competitors will do pseudo grappling trying to tie you up till the judge calls yamae,(stop) If your flexable you can score alot of ippon's or sanbons that way.

 

The other thing about the hook kick is that sometimes at shorter ranges people try to block at the thigh or the knee, and you can just go right around their guard.

 

P.S. Try throwing a lead leg round kick with slide, then using the same slide with a hook kick just let your foot touch the ground and go. Great for closing a gap, huge range too.

[ZakariRu]

yeh thats fairly basic lead leg kicking foot work. you should always slide when your kicking. Standing in place is a bad thing.

 

you use the momentum of popping your hip to start the kick and skid a little bit, my old dojo we used to do drills where you would put your supporting leg on a piece of paper and try and slide it with you.

 

i get about 1-2 feet of slide.

 

Of the two ways to throw it I mentioned, the thrust kick gives you the most "Slide"

 

The round kick has the same long range as the hook kick.

 

But if your in punching range you cant always throw a lead leg round kick or backleg for that matter.

 

But like i said before you can throw a hook kick to the head or back of the head if your grappling or standing hip to hip. Sometimes in matches competitors will do pseudo grappling trying to tie you up till the judge calls yamae,(stop) If your flexable you can score alot of ippon's or sanbons that way.

 

The other thing about the hook kick is that sometimes at shorter ranges people try to block at the thigh or the knee, and you can just go right around their guard.

 

P.S. Try throwing a lead leg round kick with slide, then using the same slide with a hook kick just let your foot touch the ground and go. Great for closing a gap, huge range too.

[isshinryu5toforever]

With the way we used to fight, staying grounded was not a bad thing. If you tried to "slide" you were probably going to be toast, because your leg was going to be grabbed, and you would find yourself lying on your back with someone soon punching you somewhere on your body. The hook kick is a good idea, until they slip behind you while you are sliding and get you in the back of the head. I've done this before to people who are actually fairly good at throwing one. These kicks are good if you're point sparring, they aren't so good if you're fighting full contact. We used to do full contact sparring, so it was a little different.

[ZakariRu]

If you say so.

 

Ive fought in alot of USTU tournaments, the foot work is just as applicable there too.

 

Kickboxing? its good there too.

 

If you feel your more likely to get swept with them dont throw them.

 

I know how fast I am and thats not a concern of mine.

 

But please remember that most karate tournaments do allow grabbing, throws, and base leg sweeps. So it would be as much of a risk there as it would be doing this "full contact" stuff with a hogu on. I think probobly more.

[isshinryu5toforever]

I was just commenting on my own experiences in martial arts. This doesn't necessarily apply to TKD. I have done TKD olympic rules sparring and of course the hook kick is good for that. I have also done full contact karate, and not having a solid base will get you smoked. I've seen people try to use a hook kick from the front leg and get pummelled for it. I have also seen them be successful. I am not saying that a hook kick can't work. I just know that it isn't as high a percentage kick as some may want to believe. I have used it in TKD competition, but sparring full contact in the my sensei's dojo back home I wouldn't count on it being affective. Almost every person there that is a capable fighter knows how to shut down the front leg hook kick no matter how fast the other person is. If you're sliding into it even better. Then they just have to step at a 45 and intercept your leg at the point. If you use your right leg, they just step forward and to their right. Use of hands is important of course, but most karateka should know how to use their hands once they get into the game of sparring. For point fighting, above the waist kickboxing, etc. hook kick great technique. For full contact karate, bare knuckle, or muay thai useful, but not something to be relied upon.

[tufrthanu]

While it's true that using the ball of your foot for a hook kick give you more reach...it's basically like getting slapped hard. If you want your kick to do actual damage you must use the heel. Hook kicks using the heel have been known to break and dislocate bones of the face which would not occur with ball of the foot kick unless you happened to catch someone with their mouth open.

[ZakariRu]

i have knocked kids out with the ball of the foot more than once.

 

John Fonseca (IOC athlete of the year) has knocked me out more than once using the ball of the foot.

 

Im going to agree to disagree with both of you. If you honestly are thinking that there is one way to block a kick everytime ish, good for you.

 

I get my kicks blocked a little less often then i score them. That doesnt mean I get hit everytime they fail. But saying you just step behind makes you sound silly. There are so many factors involved in kicking, distance at the start of the technique, if your kicking to the open side or the back side of your opponent, the angle you are from their front when you launch the kick. The cookie cutter response

 

"Almost every person there that is a capable fighter knows how to shut down the front leg hook kick no matter how fast the other person is."

 

just doesn't cut it.

[yamesu]

JKD's hook kick is not a round kick.

 

JKD's hook kick is a tae kwon do hook kick where you snap all the way through the target.

Ill have to disagree.

 

BruceLee called roundhouse-kicks ; hook-kicks.

 

(Im reading the TaoofJeetKunDo as Im typing this.)

 

Diagrams in the text clearly display there similarity.

 

In Jeet-Kun-Do, hooking-heel-kick is discribed much the same as Spinning-back-kick,

 

but the hook-kick itself is discribed as a round-house, or mawashi-geri.