Chaz Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 I was wondering if anyone out there taking san soo had any tricks or tips if a situation were to arise agaisnt boxing, kickboxing, kenpo karate or other quick arts of that nature. I have alot of freinds that take these and I'm just hopeing for more material to prove my art, because as all you San Soo practicianers know, sparing is not effective in San Soo, I simply refuse to do it at this point, if I did they'd say Im being unfair and too brutal anyway! Does anyone else relate to this? Anything will help, thanks a bunch! "One of the lessons of history is that nothing is often a good thing to do and always a clever thing to say." - Will Durant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_UKWC Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 as all you San Soo practicianers know, sparing is not effective in San Soo, I simply refuse to do it at this point, if I did they'd say Im being unfair and too brutal anyway! How is it ineffective, and why would it be unfair? I've never done San Soo so I'm afraid I can't help with your question about hints and tips. "...or maybe you are carrying a large vicious dog in your pocket." -Scottnshelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz Posted February 9, 2005 Author Share Posted February 9, 2005 How is it ineffective, and why would it be unfair? Regulating the art in a sparing session would take everything that makes it san soo...Everything that makes it san soo is what also makes it unfair in that sense: Strikes directed toward the groin, eyes, kidneys, and so on...thats my reasoning behind that statement. "One of the lessons of history is that nothing is often a good thing to do and always a clever thing to say." - Will Durant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_UKWC Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 You could say that about Wing Chun but we still spar...you just have to use the techniques that are not as dangerous. "...or maybe you are carrying a large vicious dog in your pocket." -Scottnshelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakeeel Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 You will fight as you train. If you train using "techniques that are not as dangerous' that is what you will use in a fight. If your life is on the line you do not want to use the less dangerous technique. San Soo does not lend itself to sparing. I'm a brown belt in San Soo and I have worked out with Blackbelts from other systems who insist on sparing. As long as I keep it tame...give and take...it goes pretty well. But, as soon as they give the go ahead to fight as we're taught in San Soo...it's over. Within seconds they are on the ground and the ref is calling "stop". As a true fighting art, San Soo teach's us to break, maim or kill. Fights are literally over before they start. You don't need to worry about how to fight against a boxer, kick boxer, etc. In the end it all works out the same. God, I read this and it sounds like bragging but it's not...San Soo is brutal and violent and that the just the way it is! Obviously, the art is only as effective as the individual practitioner...so work hard...train hard and never doubt the style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz Posted February 11, 2005 Author Share Posted February 11, 2005 Thanks alot Snakeeel for your comment, thats what I feel about fighting it's just hard to convince people from other arts...Thanks again "One of the lessons of history is that nothing is often a good thing to do and always a clever thing to say." - Will Durant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 How is it ineffective, and why would it be unfair? Regulating the art in a sparing session would take everything that makes it san soo...Everything that makes it san soo is what also makes it unfair in that sense: Strikes directed toward the groin, eyes, kidneys, and so on...thats my reasoning behind that statement. you're too technique oriented. think in terms of principles, not techniques. Doing this, you can adapt your stuff and make it sparring applicable. Heck, if you can't actually test it, you don't really know how well you can use it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted February 12, 2005 Share Posted February 12, 2005 There is certain aspects of San Soo that you can use for sparring and I suppose you could wear padding. I just think there would be lots of injuries. Some of the throws are brutal and you would need to be at a certain level of skill to spar. I don't think sparring is a good idea for beginners. Beginner should be working on the basics and ukemi training first. San Soo is not about techniques it's about principles. The techniques show you possibilities of what can be done. San Soo isn't do this if someone does that type of art. Being able to flow from one movement to another effecting balance and destroying your attacker is what San Soo is about. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 If that's the case, you should be able to spar with it, I'd think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakeeel Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 I'm sorry, but only those that do not practice San Soo think that you can spar with it. We do not have the "give and take" techniques used by other systems. Our system is designed to end the fight within seconds. An opponent does not get an opportunity to throw multiple punches and kicks. Unfortunately I have been forced to "test it" on a few occasions...I say unfortunately because I don't like to fight. But on each occasion the fight was over before it got started...just like it's supposed to happen. San Soo is brutal, sudden violence. It's combat...not sport. There is no way to effectively spar with it and any practitioner will tell you the same thing. If you are sparing...you are not using San Soo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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