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these guys are right on, the best example of a MCdojo is the ATA, (american teakwondo association)

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LOL im sure there will be some responses over that statement lol as I'm sure there might be some ATA people here on this board. This is going to get good lol.

What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others. - Confucius

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i know not all people train MA t obe good fighters but the ATA is the perfect example of a mcdojo. i trained with the ATA for exactly 1 class, i saw 6 year olds who where black belts, and old ladys, the sparing was"No contact" = worthless, in my opinion the ATA is out for money pure and simple.

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No contact? Wouldn't that basically be like a two man Kata?

"As you train, so shall you fight." - SWAT saying

"Hit first, hit hard, and hit continuously." -My Dad

"If it looks like a fight, start it." -My Dad

"Don't wait for an opening, make it happen." -My HS Wrestling Coach

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Muaythaiboxer wrote:

the best example of a MCdojo is the ATA, (american teakwondo association)

 

I'm no fan of the ATA, but several years ago I did train at one of their schools, and went to several testings and tournaments. Sure you can find students who are of all different ages and skill levels, but they absolutely have their share of serious martial artists as well. I have seen some ATA guys who are incredibly talented and very tough. I know for a fact that you will not find "no contact" competition at the black belt level, having had my bell rung or the wind knocked out of me a few times. You might not see that by attending one class.

 

I don't like the ATA program, so I don't recommend it, but don't make a blanket condemnation of it.

 

I think that the actual definition of McDojo is: "any school that an individual considers lesser than their own school, especially if the school appears to be financially successful"

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