Strength of a punch....born to be a puncher?

[Sinar89]

Ok, heres what happened. this guy in my class challenged me to body boxing. i said no not in school and then he said how bout just trading punches in the arm and so i agreed. backround info. me and this guy are about the same size. he does body boxing and stuff with his friends sometimes and stuff like that and just usually lets people hit him. i think he's also a bit sadomasicist (enjoys pain) and him and his friends took a guitar sting and kept hitting each other and each hit made a cut. so, hes good with pain. well, he told me to go first.i cocked back and didn't step into it but just punched. all of a sudden his eyes got kinda big and he was like "s--t....holy s--t....i'm done, you win. that f---ing hurt. you swing like f---ing Mike Tyson." then a guy watching was like "lol, whats wrong?" nad he was like "he swings like f---ing mike tyson." and it went on like that for about a min and he stoped cause we had to leave class....about 3 days later i let him get a hit in cause i wanted to see how he could hit....it didn't really hurt., like he said his arm went dead but mine, it just kinda had a buzz for a few seconds then i didn't even feel it. now, my question is, are you born with a "good" punch. this guy is lifting wise stronger then me. i'm not weak or anything but like when i lift, i do it for getting cut and endurance. he does it for getting big. like he does 192 for max on bench. i don't know my max but its not that. i told my dad and him, being a real good fighter (my dad is) said that you have to be born with a good punch, and that i must have been born with it. he said it like that cause i never learned a technique for punching, i was just born kinda knowing it. so , what do you think. i know you can learn how to punch but, do you think some people are just born with a better punch?

[GhostlySykanRyu]

Well I would think that NATURALLY one can be born with a better punch than another...because naturally we do not know how to throw a proper strike.

 

If you take two...let's use football players for example, and say neither of them know how to throw a proper strike. The stronger/faster player will be the better striker of the two, for both will be relying on that strength.

 

When you take people that ARE trained in the ways of striking, then you have musch more to take into account, such as muscle memory, mass, velocity, accuracy, using body weight and the strength & speed you have, targeting using the knowledge of human anatomy, stances, opponent defense, and ki. In that case, I do not believe that one is "born" the better striker...with all those things (and more) taken into account, the better trained striker will almost always be the better striker.

 

Hope I got my opinion across without TOO much confusion

[Grenadier]

As JeetKunDo stated, we are born not knowing how to throw a punch. While some may be able to improvise better than others, it still takes training to override the natural instincts, and condition one's body and mind.

 

Those untrained in punching, aren't going to know how to use their bodies efficiently, and are more likely to not use a strong, tight fist, or to focus their shots better.

 

His punch may have had just as much force behind it as yours did, or even more, but yours was probably better focused. While his may have had more energy behind it, it was probably more dispersed. Finally, you might have hit a nerve (literally, not figuratively).

[Shorinryu Sensei]

I agree with the others. I lso think that when you punched him, you lucked out and hit a nerve, causing his arm to go numb and hurt more than his punch to you did.

 

Knowing how to punch, and where to punch is much more important and effective than how much you can bench and lift.

 

Myself, I'm a big guy at 6'6" tall and 240lbs, but I'm still considered slim and have never had good upper body strength. Heck, I'm lucky if I can crank out 20 pushups on a good day! However, I have very good punching power with speed and accuracy.

[Knifehand007]

http://www.dimmak.net/points.htm

 

There are four possible pressure points located on the arm... maybe you triggered one. The "dead" Feeling comes from sensory loss and localized pressure.

 

Some people are born with inherent abilities, but i don't think the perfect punch is one of them.

 

Metaphsyically speaking, some people are "senstive" to rhythm of others... Meaning you may have the ability to subconsciencely hone in and strike trigger points kinda the same way a compass points north.

 

With MAists, they have stronger rhythms and they are able to pick up on those rhythms more accurately...

 

OR

 

you just got lucky...

[Muaythaiboxer]

no one is born to be a great puncher some just have better starting punches than others. if there was a small guy and a big guy the big guy would hit harder train up the little guy and he would hit harder.