taiji fajin Posted February 8, 2005 Author Posted February 8, 2005 I've never had any training under KJN Sims, just watched some testing, though I did get some under KJN Harmon, which was very good. How do you guys train meditation? Do you do it in the concentration way (repeat each technique in your mind) or the way that is more about quieting the mind? I've only heard Kuk Sa Nim talk about doing it the concentration way (he said he could go through all techniques below black belt in one second after training for long enough), but I have heard him talk about *wanting* to try the quiet way, "One day I want to stand under a tree and meditate." Which way do you do? Which way do you think is more helpful, or which helps what? Fetch Daddy's blue fright wig! I must be handsome when I unleash my rage.
KSWDanMan Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 we practice in School the "concentration" way. We move thorough the meditation positions, reviewing all of our techniques and forms. However, I do think the quieting method would be effictive.. Just to relax your mind, and clear it so you can be focused.. I would do this after warm up but before Hyung, soo ki or Cha ki. That way you could be extremely focused on your task at hand.
krzychicano Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 We also use the concentration method and go through all our forms and techniques while doing so. What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others. - Confucius
SBN Doug Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 Thats what I've heard, but that made you better right? Oh, of course. He doesn't get the credit for his explanations, only his physical training methods. He's extremely good at explaining all the mechanics of your techniques, and showing the basic physics behind it. All the second and third degree levers we form from proper joint manipulation, centrifigal force, etc. On the other hand, you need to be ready for anything. Because I was in better shape (no injuries) than my instructor up North, he was demonstrating proper technique on me for a certain throw. He was only showing the right way to grab and to position their arm. I made the mistake of asking what the proper fall was (the apponent is in an aquard position). He glanced at me, then through me. I found the proper falling technique. Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.
KSWDanMan Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 Thats to funny KSN Doug... Actually last night we were working some technique, the bowing set... the name slips me right now.. it was #3 and I put my knee in the small of there back pulled back on there head, and then wrapped my legs around them for a scissor.. well Sa Bum Nym saw me, and I had crossed my ankles. So he said do you know why you shouldn't cross your ankles(legs).. of course I said no sir, can you show me. I then put the hold on him, SBN then crossed his legs around my ankles somehow and then leaned back on me. it felt like my ankle was literally being pulled from it's socket... Anyway, I understand where your coming from. KUK SOOL!
ZR440 Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 If I remember correctly, my instructor met with KSN and several other instructors at some seminar years ago where he emphasized breathing technique/meditation over anything else. From then on our class practiced the 16 or 20 (?) positions of breathing/meditation on the floor after warm ups at least once a week. They were quite relaxing. It's happy hour somewhere in the world.
KSWDanMan Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 I really like the meditation aspect of it.. My problem is I'm not real flexible in certain ways, in in position 5(I think) where you sit cross legged(indian style).. Thats painful for me to hold that and sit upright. Sounds funny, I know.. but for the life of me I don't know why.. Anyway, I still give it my all.
Jazzstorm Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 When I am in class,I personally will clear my mind and relax. I find this very useful before a test,especially if I am feeling nervous. I find that I will concentrate on my techniques and forms(before going to sleep) I run through them in my mind,for me,this helps a great deal. Kyo Sa Nim in KSWCertified Personal TrainerHealth and Business Consultant
PrideampPoise Posted February 8, 2005 Posted February 8, 2005 Our classes are 1 hour. We start with 15-20 minutes of warm-up and stretching. That includes possibly some time of running, static stretches, pushup and situps. After that, it varies. We usually spend 10-20 minutes on forms, but not in every class... probably 90% of the classes. Sometimes we only work on our last form, sometimes we start at KCH and work through them all. We vary how we do the forms as well. Sometimes for speed, sometimes for power, and sometimes emphasizing low stance. For air kicking, we ususally do it in place, anywhere from 2-10 reps of each kick with each leg. Sometimes we partner up and go back and forth with two kicks at a time. Other times we all line up and do combination kicking across the room. We do one of these things in about 75% of our classes. We do some target kicking using the pads or bags about 40% of the classes, I'd guess. Hand striking we practice in about half the classes. Like air kicking, the volume varies. This includes striking from horse stance, as well as from fighting/defensive stance. Its all air striking. We work on techniques in about 80-90% of our classes, usually for 10-20 minutes. One thing I don't think we do enough of is practice them all the way through with falling. We do 5-15 minutes of cardio/calisthenics in about 20-30% of the classes. Crunches, pushups, hopping, "duck" walking, jumping rope, etc. About once a week or so we'll spend 10-15 minute on falling. That covers the vast majority of the classes. We have a separate class for sparring, once a week for 1 hour. Its only striking/kicking. No grappling, locking or throwing. Except for when we are approaching a tournament, the focus isn't on the point-stop method. Just light sparring in 30 second to 3 minute bursts, including against multiple attackers.
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