Killer Miller Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Shoto = Pen name for Geichin Funakoshi. Kan = Japanese word for Building or Dojo. Shoto kan = Shoto's Dojo - Killer -G95CHAMPS do you know where the name shotokan came from? Mizu No KokoroShodan - Nishiyama SenseiTable Tennis: http://www.jmblades.com/Auto Weblog: http://appliedauto.mypunbb.com/Auto Forum: http://appauto.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Found it!!!!! IF the symbol is the one I think you're looking at, you'll also notice that the Shotokan tiger is inside a black circle. If you picture the symbol without the tiger, it's an InYo. This is the Japanese version of the Yin Yang (Chinese) or Um Yang (Korean). I found the answer while reading through a book last night. There was a section discussing the three symbols and that's when I realized it. The crescent moon isn't a crescent moon at all. It's one part of the InYo. Here's a link to the patch:https://www.sakura-0.com/images/acc/acc-6106.jpg However, I can't think of any reason the two symbols were combined. It was probably done by an orginization of some sort. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kataman Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Shoto = Pen name for Geichin Funakoshi. Kan = Japanese word for Building or Dojo. Shoto kan = Shoto's Dojo - Killer -G95CHAMPS do you know where the name shotokan came from? I don't train for belt color I train to survive on the street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kataman Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 You are close killer miler KAN = house so the meaning of shotokan, is the house of Shuto I don't train for belt color I train to survive on the street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G95champ Posted February 2, 2005 Author Share Posted February 2, 2005 Thats one example of the patch. Yes I knew about the Japanese version of the Yin and Yang and the Rising Sun idea as well. If that were the only patch that would be understood. However their is another patch with that moon on the bottom. Thats the one that I am having troulbe with. Shotokan came about just as said above. Shoto - was Gichin Funakoshi's pen name he used to write poetry. Kan - means house When Funakoshi started teaching karate-do publically his students looking for a name of their style came up with Shotokan because that was the place they trained at. AKA Shoto's House. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G95champ Posted February 2, 2005 Author Share Posted February 2, 2005 Go to this link scroll down to the third from last row at the bottom. On the left you see 2 shotokan patches. One Red and One Orange. In the red patch the moon is on the top. In the Orange the Moon is on bottom. http://www.centuryfitness.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10051&storeId=10051&categoryId=13948&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=13947&crumb=13501-13920 There are some Japanese words on the bottom of the patch but I can't read it, it may explain the answer I seek. So if anyone can help me. Thanks in advance. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaG Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 G95champ - The kanji just reads "Shotokan". I believe the patches are just two different ways of drawing the "inyo" (Japanese version of "Yin Yang") Tokonkai Karate-do Instructorhttp://www.karateresource.com Kata, Bunkai, Articles, Reviews, History, Uncovering the Myths, Discussion Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Clubbers_Mythology Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 It may follow back to a mistake in the crest of shotokan karate. The badge may have been below originally, but a clerical error, places it above. this is not a karate related answer but it does answer the question in a manner of speaking. the test of time can change things dramatically. One of the badges is the original and one is a 'mistake' so to speak. as i saif before, mybe not right, but if the shoe fits... He who controls the past commands the future,He who controls the future, conquers the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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