G95champ Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I have asked this question before and have never got a quality answer. The question is why does Shotokan have 2 symobols. 1. The tiger is below a half moon. 2. The tiger is above the half moon. Anyone have any idea of what the meaning is this is? (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Miller Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 We never used those symbols so I'm actually clueless on that one. We did use the rising sun for our "JKA International" patches for a while and some AAKF patches with the Olympic Torch in it, but that's about all. I always thought the Tiger thing was more of an Americanized thing??? We never really related the Shotokan Tiger to anything and Nishiyama never discussed the matter either? - Killer - Mizu No KokoroShodan - Nishiyama SenseiTable Tennis: http://www.jmblades.com/Auto Weblog: http://appliedauto.mypunbb.com/Auto Forum: http://appauto.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaiFightsMS Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 I think it depends on the association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G95champ Posted January 26, 2005 Author Share Posted January 26, 2005 the tiger comes from the pine tree trail where Funakoshi wrote looked like a tigers tail. Then when the book was translated they chose a symbol and it was the tiger for power. one punch one kill. But the half moon thorws me. espically why there is 2 versions. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernix Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 I am not sure if this is relevant but I was reading on one site that their black belt certificates have a half moon or something of that nature and that one half is on the students certificate and the other half is maintained in a central registry and that the two symbols can be compared to tell if the certificate is fake or not. Steve,http://www.shotokansite.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aefibird Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Sorry, I don't know. I've seen the tiger symbol used, but not with the half-moon. "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotokanKid Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 my patch is a tiger with an upheld front paw and a curled tail with a rising sun in the background with 9 rays. "What we do in life, echoes in eternity.""We must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G95champ Posted January 30, 2005 Author Share Posted January 30, 2005 If you look in the century catalogues you will see 3 shotokan patches. 1. is just black and gold with a tiger and the half moon above it. This is the more common patch. 2. Is a Tiger with the moon above it its Red I think 3. Is the Tiger with the moon below it and its Orange. Those are the 2 I have questions about. WHY would the moon be on the bottom in that one patch. There has to be some reasons and its prob. pretty simple but I just don't know. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps1 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Here's one explination of the tiger http://www.concentric.net/~Tjcooper/3tiger.html and another http://www.karatebulgaria.com/tiger/ I have been able to find nothing about the cresent moon. "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenius." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kataman Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 G95CHAMPS do you know where the name shotokan came from? I don't train for belt color I train to survive on the street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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