pray mantis

[Traditional-Fist]

my comment still stands.

yes they have a gate theory based on a similar centreline

Well that is what I am saying. If it was the same then it would probably be called Wing Chun Mantis. Obviously there are differences as these are different styles.

but what they do with it, while there are similarities, they also have instances where they would do some things that are almost a definite no-no in wing chun.

Agreed.

[Muaythaiboxer]

well the founder of eight step made the foot work more efficient by getting rid of the monkey foot work and adding what he thought where the eight best short steps from diffrent styles and the eight best long steps from diffrent styles he also added more throws from chinese wrestling and more chin-na.

[Goju_boi]

well the founder of eight step made the foot work more efficient by getting rid of the monkey foot work and adding what he thought where the eight best short steps from diffrent styles and the eight best long steps from diffrent styles he also added more throws from chinese wrestling and more chin-na.

so it has that shauai chiao stuff?

[Muaythaiboxer]

yes it does in eight step they do alot of traping to move into range to throw and joint lock. there i a guy i spared with who knew eight step mantis and he had great throws very simaler to judo but not as friendly to your oponent. the guy i spared never kicked though so im guessing this is not stressed in there system.

[Goju_boi]

well maybe this guy is just more confortable with his hands?

[Muaythaiboxer]

well all i know is that he had great throws and joint locks but his strikeing was really bad (although pretty)

[Goju_boi]

"but his striking was really bad (although pretty)"

then whats the use of sriking if it doesn't work?