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Hehhe.. ok, I won't say it. I won't call you a dork. This time I'm innocent. :angel:

 

 

Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me

Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.

Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts.

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Any kind of training should be fun. I always liked an ancient Chinese Proverb. It goes: "Tell me and I will forget, show me and I may remember; Involve me and I will understand."

 

 

"Never hit a man while he's down; kick him, its easier"


Sensei Ron Bagley (My Sensei)

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I think that Humility and Humor are 2 virtues that should be exercised when training martial arts. The really serious people tend to get angry and frusterated too much and make class no fun for anyone else. Boot camp type of learning isn't the best method. The best fighters in the world have fun when training, but they do maintain a sense of seriousness. There is a difference between having fun and being funny, having fun is great, being funny (too funny) deters from training.

 

Hmm.. i need some water :spitlaugh:

 

 

Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me

Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.

Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts.

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Funny that boot camp type learning has been fine now for over 3,000 years. Where do you think the arts would be with strict discipline. :smile:

 

BTW, best you not call me a dork at all. Respect comes first.

 

Humor and arrogance are two different animals. You may not like where someone comes from or how they dress..but respect should be first and foremost at all times.

 

The reaso the McDojos exist today..is because to many people want to play and have fun instead of learn. Being like a family in the sense that the discipline is taught..along with the rules and responsibility...is one thing...but being one just to have fun is another.

 

Many a good school has been destroyed, because the student thought they didn't have to respect the instructor..after all they are family.

 

If you(in general, meaning everyone) can not have true discipline for just long enough to appreciate the old way of doing things...than that to bad. Most of the schools I visit and teach at love it. :smile: :smile:

 

 

Kyoshi Deborah R. Williams 7th Dan

Founder/Senoir Instructor Tae Su Jutsu

Board member International Martial arts Association.

"Before destruction one's heart is haughty, but humility goes before honor."

Proverbs 18:12

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"Tell me and I will forget, show me and I may remember; Involve me and I will understand." There goes that weird Sod's law or whatever... I read that above my french teacher's door the other day heh

 

At our dojang, we have a relaxed atmosphere but we also have discipline and respect. Whenever our instructor is teaching or demonstrating, we listen but afterwards when we practice new techniques on each other, we are allowed to talk in moderation then... we have a relaxed atmosphere but also we have great respect for instructor, black belts, senior grades, and each other, which I believe are a basis to train from

 

 

Jack

Currently 'off' from formal MA training

KarateForums.com

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thats the problem with today's family values. too many parents want to be friends with there chidren.

 

we need to incorporated the values of discipline within the family. if a child does something wrong, they need to be disciplined for it. therefore; in order to learn the physical laws of value...... "that every action has an equal and opposing action"...... futhermore; in any group, being a teaching or family, there needs to be a leader and assitant to compliment each other.

 

yes; having fun while learning is important,however, the lesson must still be learned.

 

an old african proverb:

 

it takes a village to raise a child (student).

 

(read TAE'S responce again)

 

:nod:

 

 

rushman (karate forums sensei)

3rd dan wtf/kukkiwon

"saying nothing...sometimes says the most"--e. dickerson

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Oh yes,.. I have seen a lot of crazy people.. but i think MA classes have to be fun.. we aren't in Feudal Japan anymore or in a Shaolin temple.

 

Also i think the people who always show off, are the one's who doesn't know anything and need an attitude to cover his lack of knowlege.

 

:smile:

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good point SF0872

 

 

rushman (karate forums sensei)

3rd dan wtf/kukkiwon

"saying nothing...sometimes says the most"--e. dickerson

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Well.. you can do the boot-camp thing. I prefer to have fun and my students to have fun. I believe this is the best atmosphere to learn in, as long as people aren't being overly funny. Have you ever noticed that the easiest things to learn are the ones you have fun in?

 

 

Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me

Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.

Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts.

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my point is not that of boot camp training .....but the lack of discipline and humility!

 

 

 

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This Message was edited by: iamrushman on Jul 6, 2001 10:51am

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