karatekaBR86 Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Hello all. My friend is thinking about signing up at a dojo. The style teaches the following kata: Matusmura Seisan, Matsumura Chinto, Matsumura Patsai, Chibana Kusanku, Rohai, Wankuan, Wansu, Wanduan, and Ananko. He asked his teacher what the style was and he said "Shorin-Ryu" well...there are over 10 sub-cats of Shorin...Does anyone know what this falls under? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isshinryu5toforever Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 I would guess Sensei Nabe Matsumura's school. He learned from Sokon (Bushi) Matsumura. The Matsumura school of Shorin-Ryu Karate is the closest to the original form of Shorin-Ryu (began Naha-Te then Shuri-Te, finally Shorin-Ryu). Hope this helps. I'm not in Shorin-Ryu, I just know a little history of Okinowan Karate. Master Shimabuku derived Isshin-Ryu Karate from Shorin-Ryu and Goju-Ryu. He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened.- Tao Te Ching"Move as swift as a wind, stay as silent as forest, attack as fierce as fire, undefeatable defense like a mountain."- Sun Tzu, the Art of War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.A.L Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 i think it is most likely Matsumura seito(Hohen soken) , although it might be shobayashi shorin ryu too(shimabukuru). all these katas are great and really the original ,these are the roots for shotokan,shitoryu(at leat half of it),Wado ryu,kyukoshin,Isshin-ryu,TKD,TSD and many other styles. what is messing is Naihanchi Shodan /Pinan shodan /Pinan nidan at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 i think it is most likely Matsumura seito(Hohen soken) , although it might be shobayashi shorin ryu too(shimabukuru). all these katas are great and really the original ,these are the roots for shotokan,shitoryu(at leat half of it),Wado ryu,kyukoshin,Isshin-ryu,TKD,TSD and many other styles. what is messing is Naihanchi Shodan /Pinan shodan /Pinan nidan at least. I'll agree with this. Is there any chance your friend can just ask the sensei what exact system it is, and who is he under? My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karatekaBR86 Posted January 17, 2005 Author Share Posted January 17, 2005 He asked him what sub-style, and the teacher smiled and said: ":Shorin Ryu"...he said he is taught by Patrick McCarthy (Im sure all of you have heard about him.) I have numerous books on by McCarthy but he never maentions what sub-cat of Shorin he is. Anyone have a clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.A.L Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Koryu Uchinadi Kenpo-jutsu is the style McCarthy promotes, it's a shorin-ryu but not a major branch ,you can call in Uchinadi kenpo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delli04 Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 It would be safe to assume that the style being taught is Matsumura Orthodox Shorin-Ryu. Hence, the use of Matsumura's name in front of the katas. However, contrary to a previous reply, Shorin-ryu never derived from Naha-Te. Although some systems due incorporate a couple of Gojo-Ryu katas (shobayashi). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patusai Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Based on the kata mention...it is probaby a combination. Chibana Kusanku is Shorin Ryu and Chibana came well after Matsumura. I agree with a lot of others...ask "Don't tell me the sky's the limit because I have seen footprints on the moon!" -- Paul Brandt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknownstyle Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 i am in matsumura seito, and we learn most of those forms "Live life easy and peacefully, but when it is time to fight become ferocious." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sozzie Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 most isshin ryu styles use these katas the closer you get to the light, the greater your shadow becomesif you like anime click here now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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