Zui Ba Xian Quan/ Drunken styles

[ovine king]

Zui Ba Xian (Quan)

 

this isn't the name of a person.

 

it is the name of the form.

 

it means drunken eight immortals (actually, it's closer to demi-god but that's a complicated story...)

 

the 8 immortals are 8 taoist characters that embody 8 ideals/temptations/characteristics of the taoist way.

 

this is where i have issues about it being a shaolin form (taoist shoalin?)

 

so anyway.

 

seeing as it isn't a person, it isn't because he drinks a lot.

 

there are a few stories about how the drunken principles came about.

 

the most famous is about a not too obedient monk (there's always one....)

 

who got a bit sloshed one night and the ones he ran into when he got home couldn't take care of him.

 

wich leads to antother gripe of mine.

 

if he was unbeatable when drunk, how when sober, did he remember what he did?

 

did they pretend to be drunk to imitate his movements?

 

if so then how surely it would only be an approximation.....

 

does that mean they encouraged him to get drunk so he could beat them up again so they can note down down the movements?

 

anyways.....

 

the straight sword was considered a higher art (intellectually, not skill-wise) weapon.

 

so yes, the point about the broad sword (dan dao - dao just means knife) was to be a simple to use weapon.

 

strangely enough though, the broad sword is considered the king of the short weapons, every inch of it being dangerous (as it was said).

 

so while it was an easier to use weapon, it was also highly prized as being a weapon that can require a lot of skill to master.

 

as for a drunken broad sword form, i've only ever seen a wushu performance of one.

 

it kinda goes against a key principle of broadsword fighting (v.close range) but it did look nice.......

[battousai16]

well, good to know, then.

[Hudson]

Like I said, I was guessing about the broadsword thing.

[fangshi]

Zui Ba Xian (Quan)

 

this isn't the name of a person.

 

it is the name of the form.

 

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I agree. I know of three schools of this form . Not sure which one was first but am also not sure that it matters.

 

The shaolin form that I have seen is from Ti Tang (earth boxing) . Very cool to watch. Sort of a fall down and ground fight form. There is also a pure taoist art . It is internal and provides the most basic principals of the internal arts without the precise discipline of the other internal arts. Often taught to children and young teenagers as well as beginers of the internal arts. Recently there have also been some wushu forms ascociated with the the name the eight drunken immortals. Not brand new like yesterday or anything but within the last 50 years or so (not sure how long exactly but these versions are not considered to be the origin of the eight drunken immoortals.